the banners

General Tacticus · #1 January 29th, 2004, 03:21 PM

1. Banner of the Northern Star raises the astral of all your mages present on the battlefield, IIRC.

2. Those banners work like a "Sermon of Courage" : it helps counteract the moral loss the troops may take. It's an effect centered on the holder. If you click on the banner you will see its "range". I have seen banners between +6 and +15. I don't know, however, if this is a radius, of if it means it affects a total of 6 to 15 squares.

Arryn · #2 January 29th, 2004, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by General Tacticus:
2. Those banners work like a "Sermon of Courage" : it helps counteract the moral loss the troops may take. It's an effect centered on the holder. If you click on the banner you will see its "range". I have seen banners between +6 and +15. I don't know, however, if this is a radius, of if it means it affects a total of 6 to 15 squares.

I wonder if we can get IW to explain what, exactly, the effect is (both morale boost amount and range/radius, plus whether it only works to counter morale loss).

Kristoffer O · #3 January 29th, 2004, 05:27 PM

Standard = AEO. All units in area regains some of their lost morale each turn.

tinkthank · #4 January 30th, 2004, 02:49 AM

Two quick questions:

1. I think it is called the astral banner, a forgable item which reduces the holder's magic resistance but increases the astral power of nearby friendly astral mages. Does anybody know what "nearby" means -- I dont see the powers of astral mages in the same province rise. Or is it only on the battlefield? And if so, how many squares? Any specific info on this item?

2. The banner that the Bard has (and a few other commanders) is supposed to raise moral of "nearby" troops -- how near is this? I dont see any moral bonuses either when I click on those units.

Teraswaerto · #5 January 30th, 2004, 02:56 AM

I'm pretty sure that the Banner of the Northern Star (or something like that) raises the astral skill of every friendly mage on the battlefield.

diamondspider · #6 January 30th, 2004, 02:59 AM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:
Two quick questions:

1. I think it is called the astral banner, a forgable item which reduces the holder's magic resistance but increases the astral power of nearby friendly astral mages. Does anybody know what "nearby" means -- I dont see the powers of astral mages in the same province rise. Or is it only on the battlefield? And if so, how many squares? Any specific info on this item?

2. The banner that the Bard has (and a few other commanders) is supposed to raise moral of "nearby" troops -- how near is this? I dont see any moral bonuses either when I click on those units.

1. It is battlefield only unless it says RITUAL at the top of the spell description. Also, nearby, I think either means in the same square of the grid or, perhaps, adjacent squares.

2. Banners effect units near them but I don't believe there is any visible change regarding this EXCEPT that your morale will stay slightly higher then it would without the banner nearby.

[ January 29, 2004, 13:06: Message edited by: diamondspider ]

onomastikon · #7 January 30th, 2004, 11:30 AM

Does anyone know how this area is determined? (e.g. +6 = ??)

Also, does anyone know how we can see the effects of such banners and the aforementioned Banner of the North Star? I dont see the little number next to the "astral icon" under my mages increase when I click on them during a battle. Is this intentional?

(It would be GREAT if most of the effects that spells and items have would be more transparent since exact descriptions of their function are often missing, e.g. consider the Amon Hotep item, or the Ark)

aldin · #8 January 30th, 2004, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by onomastikon:
(It would be GREAT if most of the effects that spells and items have would be more transparent since exact descriptions of their function are often missing, e.g. consider the Amon Hotep item, or the Ark)

Zen put together a great magic items list. Try searching him & magic items

~Aldin

Arryn · #9 January 30th, 2004, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by aldin:
Zen put together a great magic items list. Try searching him & magic items

If you read Zen's PDF file you'll quickly realize that the question as to whether +6 on a morale banner is a radius or a diameter is still valid, and as yet unanswered.

aldin · #10 January 30th, 2004, 09:23 PM

Arryn,

I've read Zen's PDF and understand the question is still valid. If you look at what I quoted you'll see I was responding to his request for additional information.

~Aldin