A Greeting and Question

Leblanc · #1 March 18th, 2004, 01:08 AM

I just got Dominions II Last week and Im really loving it. The shear amount of depth in it made the demo a big enough drain on my time that I didnt actually buy the game for a month. I kinda suck at it right now but I have managed to win a few games, most notably as R'lyeh and Ulm.

Anyway, my question is this: is there any way for mages to advance permanently in paths besides empowerment? I understand that temporary battle spells that will boost levels for the duration of the battle, but the empowerment description seems to hint that there are alternate ways to give peramnent levels. Am I just reading too far into a bit of text?

Norfleet · #2 March 18th, 2004, 01:15 AM

Yes: The spell "Wish", level 9 Alteration, requires Astral 9 to cast, can be used to permanently raise all magic ranks by 1, if you wish for "magic power". Other than that, only empowerment can grant additional magic ranks on a permanent basis.

Many items, however, exist that will increase the wearer's magic ranks as long as he uses the item. The ranks are lost when the items are removed, however, so this isn't truly permanent....but it is usually good enough.

Arryn · #3 March 18th, 2004, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
Yes: The spell "Wish", level 9 Alteration, requires Astral 9 to cast, can be used to permanently raise all magic ranks by 1, if you wish for "magic power".

If you Wish for magic power, do you gain rank 1 in areas you presently do not have?

Norfleet · #4 March 18th, 2004, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by Arryn:
If you Wish for magic power, do you gain rank 1 in areas you presently do not have?

Yes! Why do you think I do it?

Gateway103 · #5 March 18th, 2004, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by Arryn:
If you Wish for magic power, do you gain rank 1 in areas you presently do not have?

Yes! Why do you think I do it?

Hmm... I have only used Wish to increase magic power of my Pretender, which of course do not gives Holy/Unholy increase (Pretenders can't have them). Yet, do Wish gives Holy/Unholy level to non-pretender non-priest units? For that matter, does it even boost Holy/Unholy for units already with Holy/Unholy levels? Or is that a different wish, "priestly power" anyone?

-Gateway103

Norfleet · #6 March 18th, 2004, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by Gateway103:
Yet, do Wish gives Holy/Unholy level to non-pretender non-priest units? For that matter, does it even boost Holy/Unholy for units already with Holy/Unholy levels? Or is that a different wish, "priestly power" anyone?

Wish never boosts Holy/Unholy, only magic ranks. This is regardless of whether the unit wishing is a pretender, a holy or unholy priest, a prophet, etc. There is no priestly power wish.

Gateway103 · #7 March 18th, 2004, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by Gateway103:
Yet, do Wish gives Holy/Unholy level to non-pretender non-priest units? For that matter, does it even boost Holy/Unholy for units already with Holy/Unholy levels? Or is that a different wish, "priestly power" anyone?

Wish never boosts Holy/Unholy, only magic ranks. This is regardless of whether the unit wishing is a pretender, a holy or unholy priest, a prophet, etc. There is no priestly power wish.

Ah, that's what I thought. Hmm... are there any way of boosting Holy/Unholy short of making a prophet, or communion/sabbeth? Don't recall an item that does this...

And for wishing "Power", I know it increases the stats of caster, but do you know just much the increase is in each stats (e.g. 20% hp increase, +1 prot, or whatever they are)?

-Gateway103

Norfleet · #8 March 18th, 2004, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by Gateway103:
And for wishing "Power", I know it increases the stats of caster, but do you know just much the increase is in each stats (e.g. 20% hp increase, +1 prot, or whatever they are)?

HP +50, STR +20, Atk/Def/Prec +10.

These are flat increases, not percentages.

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tinkthank · #9 March 18th, 2004, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Gateway103:

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Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by Gateway103:
Yet, do Wish gives Holy/Unholy level to non-pretender non-priest units? For that matter, does it even boost Holy/Unholy for units already with Holy/Unholy levels? Or is that a different wish, "priestly power" anyone?

Wish never boosts Holy/Unholy, only magic ranks. This is regardless of whether the unit wishing is a pretender, a holy or unholy priest, a prophet, etc. There is no priestly power wish.
Ah, that's what I thought. Hmm... are there any way of boosting Holy/Unholy short of making a prophet, or communion/sabbeth? Don't recall an item that does this...

And for wishing "Power", I know it increases the stats of caster, but do you know just much the increase is in each stats (e.g. 20% hp increase, +1 prot, or whatever they are)?

-Gateway103

The Sword of Justice
The Sword of Injustice

Both boost Priestly power by 1, respectively.
Temp boosts can of course be gotten via Crystal Shield or Communions.

Norfleet · #10 March 18th, 2004, 10:43 AM

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The Sword of Justice
The Sword of Injustice

Both boost Priestly power by 1, respectively.
Temp boosts can of course be gotten via Crystal Shield or Communions.

These are all temporary/item boosts, though, and Crystal Shield/Communion works only in combats. None of these permanently raise holy/unholy, and Sword of Justice/Injustice are artifact-grade items which you can only have one of.