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				 Re: Why does my Succubus rarely seduce?? 
 A Cat charm helps. 
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				 Re: Why does my Succubus rarely seduce?? 
 I tried the tartarian chains assassination before ( I used the flying demonbred assassin hero from abyssia not a succubus though) and if I remember correctly, if the charm works the commander attacks his own province that turn. 
 I noticed some unusual results them in the arena though - if you enslave the returning arena champion he retains the trident and your champion gets no experience. (Although the reigning champ does attack the province he came from that turn as well, which was nice, I thought he was going to disappear)
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	Did he keep his commander status when enslaved by chains, or did he become just a soldier?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by velk: I tried the tartarian chains assassination before ( I used the flying demonbred assassin hero from abyssia not a succubus though) and if I remember correctly, if the charm works the commander attacks his own province that turn.
 
 
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				April 7th, 2004, 02:21 AM
			
			
			
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	Did he keep his commander status when enslaved by chains, or did he become just a soldier?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Stormbinder: 
 quote:Originally posted by velk:
 I tried the tartarian chains assassination before ( I used the flying demonbred assassin hero from abyssia not a succubus though) and if I remember correctly, if the charm works the commander attacks his own province that turn.
 
 
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				 Re: Why does my Succubus rarely seduce?? 
 Checked, it seems to be an 'Enslave Mind' attack (same graphic as for enslave mind, master enslave) and with identical results -- loss of commander status and name. 
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	I see. Btw, if you GOR the enslaved commander - he will regain his lost magic pathes/priest levels, correct?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Taqwus: Checked, it seems to be an 'Enslave Mind' attack (same graphic as for enslave mind, master enslave) and with identical results -- loss of commander status and name.
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				 Re: Why does my Succubus rarely seduce?? 
 Hm, unsure; I do know that there's space in the data structures for units to retain magic levels (see Tartarians,  Vastnesses for instance, which all have magic even though you get them as units). I haven't enslaved a mage recently 'tho. 
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				November 12th, 2004, 05:29 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Why does my Succubus rarely seduce?? 
 What sorts of nasties from the "Underworld" come after the wielder of the Chains? |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Why does my Succubus rarely seduce?? 
 Tartarian Chains (the artifact, not the native weapon of the Tartarian Spirit, which is a different one) has the additional effect of Enslave Mind on hit.
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				 Re: Why does my Succubus rarely seduce?? 
 In an MP game I'm playing I just ended up getting The Tartarian Chains after a battle. The description states that the wielder will be attacked by "guards of the Underworld".  
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