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May 26th, 2001, 06:56 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
Yo, if your friends are willing to all get together to play direct-connect TCP/IP, then why can't they play PBW?
If you're all playing and submitting turns at the same time, there's no reason why you can't do 20 turns a day on PBW.
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May 26th, 2001, 07:00 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
rder <<<<<<
That says it all.
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May 26th, 2001, 07:02 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
You are still comparing apples and carrots.
Software companies never sell finished products, if they did then there would not be any need for patchs, add-ons, etc. Name one game that was sold as a finished product and had everything they said they would like to include when they first made it known they were working on the game.
Even your OS is not completed. (I.E. In Nervada, MS stated that Win98 would end the blue screen of death problem. They turned on the computer and it core dumped. Bill was so red in the face. They released the product 4 weeks later to the gen public but if you bought a new system, it came with it installed. <I have win98 a month before it was released to the stores.> They then later still came out with Version 2 which was still not complete and made a number of patchs.)
Do that and You may just convince me.
I am out, I got a mod to release (no time given so no one will hold me to it.)
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May 26th, 2001, 07:03 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
This is the best action to take rather then post that we are lacking in brain area or a false statement that your dog can beat the game.(A MORE BELIEVEABLE STATEMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN:<<<<
Look I don't know you and you didn't have to post your resume. The thing about my dog was supposed to be a joke. I didn't think it was all that subtle that anybody would think my dog actually played it. I don't question people's intelligence unless I am given reason to. But, to me that is enough reason to.
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May 26th, 2001, 07:06 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
Yo, if your friends are willing to all get together to play direct-connect TCP/IP, then why can't they play PBW?
If you're all playing and submitting turns at the same time, there's no reason why you can't do 20 turns a day on PBW.<<<<
Well I don't know but 20 turns in a day still seems awfully slow to me. How many hours are you talking here? Have you tried it? I haven't been able to play this game TCP/IP yet but I have played others that way and I would think 8 people could do the first 20 turns anyway in an hour or 2 at most.
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May 26th, 2001, 07:12 PM
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Software companies never sell finished products, if they did then there would not be any need for patchs, add-ons, etc. Name one game that was sold as a finished product and had everything they said they would like to include when they first made it know they work woking on the game.<<<<<
Actually I buy games that have been out a year or more off the bargain bin all the time and I go to the website to check for patches and while there is usually at least one that fixed bugs, not to finish the game I have gotten games that didn't have any at all. The most recent being Jagged Alliance UB, which is a great game btw. However, you are using faulty logic. I can say that all bank robbers have robbed at least one bank but that doesn't mean it's okay to be a bank robber. They all need to finish their games before they sell them as a matter of ethics.
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May 26th, 2001, 07:19 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
I would like to make a suggestion.
Stop responding to Kagetora's comments. He is obviously a very intelligent individual who enjoys controversy. Especially controversy he starts.
My sisters father in-law is an attorney, and I think the threats of a class action law suite are so … well, pathetic. First and foremost, the game is NOT defective. You do not have anything in writing that Promises TCI/IP play. When compared to other games, including PC Gamers review, SEIV scored very hi for its quality and AI.
Kagetora, I really don't care to read any more of your attempts at causing problems. I would hope that Richard would move this thread to an OFF TOPIC forum, as that is where it belongs.
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May 26th, 2001, 07:32 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
My sisters father in-law is an attorney, and I think the threats of a class action law suite are so … well, pathetic. First and foremost, the game is NOT defective.<<<<
Well I think you saying your sisters father in law being an attorney somehow makes you an authority on law to be one of the most pathetic things I have ever read. Thus the rest of your opinion is equally pointless. I also have said it's not me pursuing a lawsuit. Not even sure the person who is will actually do it at this point. They are in the peliminary stages at best.
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May 26th, 2001, 07:39 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
This thread is really getting us no where at this point. Let's move on folks...
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May 27th, 2001, 01:44 AM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
So eve though part of me is still upset I will offer you a deal. If you really feel that slighted please drop me an email with another Shrapnel Game of your choice and I will mail it to you. Now I am not admitting fault by doing this and I don't plan on doing this for everyone else. But obviously some bad blood has happenned here that is not good for the community, and our community needs every player.
So if your serious about resolving this instead of shouting and calling names just drop me an email at rdarnese@shrapnelgames.com.
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Well Richard, that is nice I guess. As I said however, I am not Bill B. I am assuming you think I am because we share an email address purely as a junk mail dump. However, so far the only thing you did to me personally other than not complete this game I paid for, is give out my real name on another board. I think that was foolish, misplaced and wrong but it is unlikely to cause me any suffering. I also would point out I have never shouted or called anybody a name least of all you. However, you enraged my friend and he has actually obtained an attorney. Not sure where that might lead yet. However, are you offering me this game? Are you offering it to him? Both of us? Not sure he would want you to know what his actual name is which you would if he responded to this. I will have to ask him.
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