patch 2.14 increase in micromanagement

Pocus · #1 September 15th, 2004, 03:45 PM

Darn... the patch 2.14 prevent 2 fever fetishes or clams from operating correctly on the same person. Frankly I dont quite understand why it has been done like that, as anyway this dont invalidate the strategy of people wanting to produce some, but just add more micromanagement.

I think there was some things more important than that.

Kristoffer O · #2 September 15th, 2004, 03:52 PM

The change is not targeted against clams and fetiches. They just happen to be affected by the misc-item-fix.

Arryn · #3 September 15th, 2004, 03:55 PM

BTW, guys, unless I missed it, there isn't an explicit Patch 2.14 announcement thread ...

Kristoffer O · #4 September 15th, 2004, 03:57 PM

OK. There is a press release though.

Thufir · #5 September 15th, 2004, 04:01 PM

Wow - good work guys! You knocked this patch out pretty quick, and it looks like it nails some very key bugs. Can't wait to try it.

The Panther · #6 September 15th, 2004, 05:11 PM

This is an excellent fix. Clams and fever fetishes are already strong enough anyway. It never made sense to me that they could stack and other identical artifacts could not.

Boron · #7 September 15th, 2004, 05:14 PM

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The Panther said:
This is an excellent fix. Clams and fever fetishes are already strong enough anyway. It never made sense to me that they could stack and other identical artifacts could not.

Curious : How many leaders can you have at maximum ?
It is a nice fix but the increase is not that big : 20 gold + 4/3 upkeep / turn more for clams and 3 death gems more for fever fetishes .

So i ask now is there a leaderlimit at e.g. 1000 leaders ?
I think in newbiegame 1 when i and aku played until turn 110 i had about 500-600 leaders as ermor when we finally decided it was a draw

Alneyan · #8 September 15th, 2004, 05:20 PM

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Boron said:

A map featuring *all* units as commanders reached 1,020 leaders (if memory serves), so if there is indeed a leader limit, it is likely higher than that. The next "magic" figure is 65536, but there might be a hardcoded limit to save the game from collapsing because of all these leaders everywhere.

Boron · #9 September 15th, 2004, 05:35 PM

Oh yeah Alneyan

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But perhaps it is because those units are included in the mapfile .
I am just curious because when i waited for dominions 2 ( i had to wait about 10 days until it shipped ) i played the dominion 1 demo and there as ermor after about 300-500 leaders i couldn't summon anymore ( as newbie i summoned hordes of priests for reanimate there lol ) .

This is the case why i think there is still a limit at something like 1000-2000 in dominions 2 .
Ok once you have 500 clams the game is surely already finished though

Alneyan · #10 September 15th, 2004, 06:05 PM

Well, I will keep on testing as soon as I get in the mood required for mindless clicking, but for now I reached more or less 500 leaders without problem. Actually counting them is another matter though.

However, you can have a *mere* one hundred leaders per province; the others do not seem to appear in either the army setup or in actual battle. I fought against some random knights twice, at turn 60 and at turn 125, and I only had one hundred commanders in both battles, although I have been summoning six Censors per turn. The same goes true for Army Setup. Granted, you do not really need more than one hundred leaders, but it certainly makes for an impressive army.