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				October 15th, 2004, 02:50 PM
			
			
			
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		| Arakiel said: "Deeply Religious Trait : I'm fine with not allowing it. I would be interested to see what other people think about that."
 
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		| [Salient said: I suggest we allow intel, it's like I said a strategic choice.
 
 Tech and ship trading are off limits and so is the religious trait.
 
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		| Arakiel said: as to your other question on whats the point of intel...it's called Role Playing, you may have heard of it.  It involves  taking on the role of another (in this case government) and acting just as that other would.  Taking something out for all players because you don't find it effective smacks at the opposite of what RP is for.  Now if YOU don't want to use Intel in your government then that's fine, but for others it may be an intricate part of their society.
 
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				October 15th, 2004, 03:16 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Looking for players for a new NEWBIE game. 
 How about we make it a compromise ?
 I agree with douglas that the deeply religius trait is overpowered, so we leave that one out.
 
 I agree with Arakiel that intel is part of the game and a strategic decision for each player to make, so we'll have that in.
 
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				October 15th, 2004, 05:12 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Looking for players for a new NEWBIE game. 
 I am good with that, since I do use Intel on occassion and I am do not have the religious trait:-) |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 16th, 2004, 05:03 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Looking for players for a new NEWBIE game. 
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				October 16th, 2004, 10:41 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Looking for players for a new NEWBIE game. 
 Okay, I'm here!  I'm going to try to join the game now...  I'm travelling again for the next two weeks so it's possible that i might miss a turn or two.  No big deal if that happens, I'll deal with it.   |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Looking for players for a new NEWBIE game. 
 The Vrok rise again. I have uploaded my empire file.   |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 18th, 2004, 12:40 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Looking for players for a new NEWBIE game. 
 You guys will just have to learn for yourselves how horrible the SE4 intelligence system is.   |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Looking for players for a new NEWBIE game. 
 /me starts handing out baby soothers for the invietable breakdown. 
Hey, look! I'm agreeing with Fyron! We must be right!    
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				October 18th, 2004, 11:01 AM
			
			
			
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		| narf poit chez BOOM said: /me starts handing out baby soothers for the invietable breakdown.
 
 |  ...suck...suck...suck...LOL
 
Well I think I FINALLY figured out what kind of race I'll put together.  I'll get it uploaded tonight, in the meantime I've asked to join  
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				October 18th, 2004, 09:15 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Looking for players for a new NEWBIE game. 
 Doh!... I had to withdraw and re-add myself because I went and picked a shipset that was already in use     oops...
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