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 Oh yes, and let me add to the list
 Sundiver, Startide Rising, and The Uplift War, by David Brin. The first of these three is a bit slow, but provides a needed background to understanding the Last two, which are truly excellent novels. IMO, this series is tied for best depiction of multiple alien species in all of SF, ever. In all fairness, David Brin can really blow it out his arse sometimes, as in many of his other books. This series is definitely his best work.
 
 The entire Chanur series, (read them in order!), by CJ Cherryh. More human drama than some prefer, but very well done. This is my other candidate for best depiction of multiple alien species in an SF novel, ever.
 
 <sexistpig> One of my hesitations about female authors is that they typically write action scenes with rather less skill and facility than male authors. Ms Cherryh is a delightful exception to this sad rule. </sexistpig>
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 Ah violence "doesn't come naturally" to the creative minds of women (LOL I should really introduce whoever said  that  little jewel to my Kung Fu isntructor's daughter.
 Seriously though I've noticed most female authors who  do have violence in their books tend to lean the violence toward a more emotionaly gripping climax while a lot of male authors just lean towards the "[censored] blows up" (if you'll pardon my language) kind of end that makes us go COOL.
 Granted many male authors are excellent at making violent scenes emotional as well as cool but only a sad few of the ones I've read.
 
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 Try a book caled EON...I deleive David Drake but not 100% on that, not a military type but still a good book, Man Kinzan wars is another so far 3 in the series, BOLO is cool too!!! man if we had those! 
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 Pfft, dont put words in my mouth    
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 If you want "Hornblower" in space read the "Seafort Saga". Nick Seafort becomes humanities greatest captain however he considers himself a pathetic failure because he sent all his friends and quite a few cadets to their deaths (in his defence there was a war on), its like that StarTrek episode where Troi realises the only way to save the ship during her test is to send Geordi to die |  
	
		
	
	
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 C.J. Cherryh's Atevi novels are very interesting, despite the fact that the main characters a diplomat. 
And there's a series...by a guy...about a castle with 144,000 doors. And everything in the castle is constantly changing. Funny. Mind to tired to find the one book I have and find the name.
 
And Digital Knight, by Ryk Spoor, aka Sea Wasp, aka he of the very good fanfic(What I have read so far)  aka the guy who got his start in the fiction industry by getting into an argument with David Weber(or Eric Flint, I really can't remember).
 
And Eric Flint's Grantville novels.
 
And www.baen.com  ,for those poor souls who havn't found the free library and webscriptions and thus have to wait at their local bookstores and librarys for many good books.
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