An old Newbie ;)

[Pirateiam]

Well I have not played Dom II for 6 months (since the Norfleet incident) and was thinking of comming back and trying a few games. Since I have not played in a while was just wondering what are the biggest changes to Dom II (sttategies, SC's, ...etc) Been sifting through the forum to get some ideas before I jump into some multi's. Also any die-hard players still around?

[Graeme Dice]

I'm still around, but I haven't played in about a month.

Who/What is/was norfleet?
I keep hearing about this and am very confused.

[Tuidjy]

One of the very best players of Dominions II. It is hard to say how good he
actually was, because, in at least one occasion, he was caught cheating. In his
defense, he cheated in a game where half a dozen players had former a pre-game
alliance against him.

Cheating or not, he had a extremely good grasp of both strategy and tactics, and
was willing to share his knowledge with newbies. Playing against him was quite
the education, and I credit him for much, if not most of my progress. He also
enjoyed heated discussions, and had an exotic Internet Identity... real or artificial.

When he was caught cheating, this community suffered a major blow. I nearly
stopped playing, many people went away from the boards, etc...

I wish he were still around. I may be the only one.

[Graeme Dice]

Tuidjy said:
In his
defense, he cheated in a game where half a dozen players had former a pre-game
alliance against him.

I'm almost completely certain that his cheating was not limited to just that one game. He always had far, far more resources than anyone else did at any given point. For example, on the world map, with myself playing Arco, and him as Soul Gate Ermor, he was able to cover everything from Africa to Europe to halfway across Asia with Wizard's towers at 50 earth gems each. His research went up faster than Arco with magic 2, three sage sites, and buying 4 mystics a turn. Even the combined hording of both Arco and R'lyeh over a period of 50+ turns wasn't enough to bring down his arcane nexus for more than a single turn. I'd say he was cheating for a good six months or more.

Cheating or not, he had a extremely good grasp of both strategy and tactics, and
was willing to share his knowledge with newbies.

I always found that it was much more productive to play against just about anybody else, as you knew that Norfleet was going to show up with five times the resources that you had, then smash you before you had a chance to learn how to play.

[The_Tauren13]

Please, GD, for the sake of the newfound tranquillity of these forums don't rekindle old arguments.

Sigh... it looks like this has already progressed into another Norfleet argument. I thought we beat the subject to death when it happened.

[Huzurdaddi]

I wish he were still around. I may be the only one.

You are not the only one Tuidjy . I also liked having him around for all the reasons that you listed and he was just plain fun.

[quantum_mechani]

Norfleet was not much fun to play against, but the dominions forums and IRC channel are a duller place since he left.

[Zen]

Pirate he is!

[Turms]

I played one game against Norfleet. Playing against someone who is cheating is so unfun that I cannot understand why anyone would like to have him back.

Turms