New Game: Gritty Galaxy

[Emperor's Child]

Got it, thanks.

[Emperor's Child]

Bug report in Gritty: if you upgrade you ships the existing armor is changed to "bunker" armor, which is 20x as strong (ie: Bunker armor is 600 points compared to 30 for the armor it replaced). This is a game-unbalancing bug IMHO.

[Suicide Junkie]

All such designs should be considered illegal.
I have been making a patch which should be posted to PBW soon.

[Ed Kolis]

Oh, you are making a patch? Well, before you finalize it, there was one minor problem I found with the mod but didn't get a chance to mention to you:

The Space Yards and Manufacturing Pod all are in the same family, even though they are different sizes. This can make upgrading designs a bit of a chore, as if you don't want the biggest yard available you have to manually replace it with the one you had in the first place. How about moving the yards to separate families? (This also has the benefit of making the Manufacturing Pod more visible to players! ) Of course, if you do this, you would also want to remove the roman numeral 1 from the Manufacturing Pod so it isn't the same as the SY I...

[Suicide Junkie]

Easy fix.

Anything else?

[Ed Kolis]

Well I was going to complain about the 200kT and 400kT ship hulls using the same pic, but I guess you had no choice there, seeing as you have 10 ship hulls and only 8 stock pics!

[Suicide Junkie]

Well, for neostandard shipsets, you'll get the scout picture on the 200kt ships.

[Emperor's Child]

Some thoughts for your up-coming mod:

Emissive Armor: My initial thoughts on the Emissive armor is that it was top heavy on cost for the amount of gain you get for it. Maybe that re-balances better toward the top end of its development, but on the low side of the tech scale it is pretty costly and large for its modest combat contribution.

Intel (Shipbombs): Another thought I've had is whether or not you want to continue with shipbombs as a intel project. The crushing difficulty of repair makes an intel-attack that gives your ship damage very difficult to respond to. Though there are counter-intel projects, this aspect of the game is processed player by player in sequence...so the guy at the top of the queue has a VERY large advantage in this area throughout the game.
I'd recommend that the small ship-bomb be increased to the price of the "standard" ship bomb (50k), the standard ship-bomb be increased in price to 100k, and the large one get increased to 300k in order to tone-down their effect on play.

[Suicide Junkie]

Even level 1 emissive armor will increase your survivability against beam weapons by 5-20%

It is true that the low to medium tech EA is only much use on the larger ships, but that's ok.
Grit Econ needs to encourage larger ships anyways.

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As far as I can see, shipbombs are pretty underpowered as is, but you've clearly had a different experience.

Small ship bomb costs 20k points for 100 damage, which is enough to break two armor components... if you're lucky or the enemy forgot to add armor to their support ships, you might just blow out a critical component too.

Regular ship bomb is 50k for 500 damage. Stands a modest chance of crippling an otherwise-average warship that dosen't have auxiliary control and other backup systems. Unless you've really concentrated on building intel facilities, you're not likely to be able to send too many of these per turn.

Typical warships (that I design at least) have 5k to 10k hitpoints, so these attacks do very little damage in the big picture. The medium ship bomb is a bit weaker than a single CSM hit.

That said, the counter intel does need some work... or maybe just removal.

[Ed Kolis]

What, even leaky intel isn't enough for you???