Q. about LavaWarriors

[Crazy]

I am playing regular Abysia with heat index 3. I am in my home province where the heat is currently+3 as most of my provinces are.

My Lava Warriors all have defense of 7. When I right clcik it says Basic defense: 10, Heat: +3, Current Defense:7

Why would heat, that I prefer, reduce their defense?

Is it related to their bereserking???

[Endoperez]

Berserk has a number listed after it, e.g. Berserk +3. The units get +3 to att and str and prot, but -3 in def, when it goes berserk. Berserked units will never retreat from battle, so they have morale of 99. Units that can go berserk, like Lava Warriors, or Arch Theurgs with Nature 6 blessing (), won't go berserk before they are hurt in battle.

However, the armor's effect on defense is the more probable culprit in this case. Check Ulm; their heavy units can have defense 3 after armor/weapon maluses...
Weapons can also affect defense. Every weapon's defense affects the wielding creature's base defense - attack only affects attacks made with that weapon.

You'll be confused about mounted units' defense shortly; mounted units don't get defense penalties from armor, and get a slight bonus for being mounted.

You probably didn't need the exceptions, but here they are.

[shovah]

the lava warriors have the low defence because of: their armour, and their 2 weapos (which each have a defence penalty)

[Crazy]

The 2 weapons...

That explains it!

Thanks!

[shovah]

np, and since there defence is rubbish anyway try them with an offensive bless (i like b6 f6 or somewhere around there if you dont want to go too expensive)

[PrinzMegaherz]

shovah said:
np, and since there defence is rubbish anyway try them with an offensive bless (i like b6 f6 or somewhere around there if you dont want to go too expensive)

I suppose b6 should be n6

Given the 2 attacks, a f9 blessing might be good as well... but I think it's not worth to do a bless strategy with Abysia. Lava warriors can't stand up to demons which you will undoubtly summon with Abysia. And even if you don't use blood magic and concentrate on massive armies with lots of mages hurling fiery doom of all sorts on your enemy (Abysia is really good at those things), you are better served with the much more endurable Abysian infantry. Cheaper but with more standing power, at least thats my experience.

Btw Shovah: How did you manage to do so many posts in such a short time?

[shovah]

i have so many post due to my obscene amounbt of free time, and i mean b6 to be b6 because the bonus it gives to strength is handy although f9 b4-6 would be nice too.
i also agree that a bless stategy is bad, b6 f6 isnt because it opens up some nice spells and items

[archaeolept]

i don't think i've ever seen a succesful bless strat w/ base aby - the darn lava warriors move too slowly, have no shields, and are just far too difficult to amass due to the resource system. Guardians of the Pyre in the CB mod are viable though.

[shovah]

yea you cant put your whole strat on an aby bless.

edit: just had my first go wqith blood of humans under a cb mod (ive only used em before) and i just want to say im impressed. my only problem is the fact that your only non capitol mages are b1 h2 and f1 h2 (the guardians of the pyre are sweet though)

[PrinzMegaherz]

shovah said:
i have so many post due to my obscene amounbt of free time, and i mean b6 to be b6 because the bonus it gives to strength is handy although f9 b4-6 would be nice too.
i also agree that a bless stategy is bad, b6 f6 isnt because it opens up some nice spells and items

Ah,I'm sorry, I was actually unable to identify what b stands for, so I thought "hm, maybe he pressed the wrong key and meant n".
Well you usually don't see blood involved in a bless strategy, so it took me some time to get the meaning