Official SE5 release date announced - September 12

[capnq]

Imperator Fyron said: The arguments I've read seem to have been to the effect of "games today are not much more bugged than in the past," not "we like buying buggy products." Nobody likes buying buggy products, but that is how it is, so we have to make do.

I think that's Rag-X's point though. If people stopped buying shoddy products, companies would have a financial incentive to improve quality. There just aren't enough people willing to pay for quality.

It's like the old saying: "Fast. Cheap. Good. Pick two." Enough people pick "fast & cheap" to keep the shovelware coming.

[Tampa_Gamer]

Tim Brooks said:
I hope you are correct. But, there are two things that could possibly work against this:

1. It takes two for patches. Both the developer and the publisher must support the game. Aaron wanting to update the product doesn't work if SF won't allow it. And SF has a record of not supporting releases for long. Look at JA and many of their other titles. They are still selling half completed games from 3-4 years ago.

2. Aaron is no longer an independent contractor and now, more than ever, not in control of his game. Malfador is now SF.

Tim - you are absolutely correct. It was his dedication to the fans by continually patching and adding things to SE4 that has partly kept me involved with the series since 2000 (and of course the inherent fun in modding and relationships with other fans over the years). It's funny how patches with mostly bug fixes and some new features make you want to play certain games again. Typically, anytime a new patch comes out for a game I will typically give it a whirl again, even for some that I shelved long ago.

I know that when confronted with the patch question on a chat as recently as this weekend, Aaron confirmed his intent to patch SE5 for a very long time (one part of the equation as you put it). However, if SF does not support Aaron in his wishes, then I don't doubt the SE series will die an untimely death.

[bearclaw]

I hope SEV is a big success, because I think Aaron deserves it with his dedication and superior game concept.

I'm eager for the game because SE games are all I play.

I'm looking forward to playing games with all you guys in the future because this is by far, the best online community I've ever been a part of.

Even if the game is only a a mediocre success and only draws in a relatively small number of new people, I have no doubt in my mind that Aaron will continue to provide us all with the same level of commitment he has shown us all over these many many years.

Bugs in games are unfortunate, but inevitable because of the climate that PC games have evolved into. Wish it wasn't so, but it is. I'll be lined up at my local PC game store on Sept 12 to pick up my copy regardless.

bugs or no, I feel that because of our enthusiasm and Aaron's dedication, SE isn't going away anytime soon.

[Ragnarok-X]

Renegade 13 said:I can understand why you chose the example you did, but I just don't think it was a very good comparison. Perhaps a better comparison would be Game vs. Book. If a game is buggy and you can't really play it, it's similar to buying a book that's missing a few pages here or there. I think that works well as a good comparison.

Hey,
okay, i 100% percent agree with you. Your example is DEFINITLY way better. Thanks

[rdouglass]

There has never been any computer software that has been released without bugs. There has never been any computer hardware that has been released without bugs.

Period.

Here's some of Intel's latest known hardware errors and they seem to have no intention of fixing.
http://geek.com/news/geeknews/2006Ja...0123034350.htm
They are just an example of why I say "no hardwarew or software is bug free".

[ZeroAdunn]

Ragnorak: Everybody else here is pointing out examples of how games in the past have been just as bugged as modern games, or how it isn't just games that are released with "bugs."

Could you please make references to the games that have these horrible game destroying bugs you are referring too?

[DarkAnt]

Bungie made a game that would reformat your hard drive. I forget what it was called, it was some version of myst I think. Anyway, that would not only ruin that game, but ruin all my other games installed.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I once made a bugless 'Guess-my-number' program.

It even had two difficulty levels.

[atari_eric]

So it releases... after my birthday. Swell.

[Parasite]

Any word yet on Preordering SEV? I don't really care about what serial number of disk I get, but I would like to run it soonest!