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		| Caduceus said: Griping about the new version is nothing new.  These are threads from six years ago, on the eve of and just after SE:IV release:
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 Anyway, you get the idea.  The community is bigger than ever and we don't even have the full game in our hands yet.
 
 |  Right, by the numbers.
 
A and B are quibbling about gameplay details.
 
C is about GOLD, not the SE4 launch.
 
D is *****ing about the AI.
 
Nowhere in any of those threads is anybody saying "The UI sucks. It's too clumsy, clunky and click-intensive. The ship design is needlessly complex and click-intensive; there is no reason at all to have multiple decks in the ship design screen, none."
 
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		| "A and B are quibbling about gameplay details... 
 Nowhere in any of those threads is anybody saying "The UI sucks. It's too clumsy, clunky and click-intensive. The ship design is needlessly complex and click-intensive; there is no reason at all to have multiple decks in the ship design screen, none."
 
 |  B is called "4 UI improvements to SE IV I would like to see".
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 Those are still pretty minor UI complaints... particularily by comparison. 
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		| Possum said: Nowhere in any of those threads is anybody saying "The UI sucks. It's too clumsy, clunky and click-intensive. The ship design is needlessly complex and click-intensive; there is no reason at all to have multiple decks in the ship design screen, none."
 
 
 |  I'm sure I can find a post that discusses SE:IV UI and how everybody hated it at first (I know I did).  
 
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		| Suicide Junkie said: If only he'd let us write "stock"...
 
 |  I agree. The one-man development shop thing can only do so much. Development by committee is also not good, but many of the issues being brought up here as SEV "negatives" appear to have been brought up by the beta testers to Aaron. For whatever reason, he did not or could not act upon their suggestions.
 
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 Those were the good old days.  When the first version 0.51 demo for SEIV came out, the A.I.'s were very weak and they didn't create fleets, so ships came through warp points one by one and attacked one by one.  It was too easy to beat the A.I.'s and it quickly got boring.   
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		| Caduceus said: I'm sure I can find a post that discusses SE:IV UI and how everybody hated it at first (I know I did).
 
 Honestly, in six months you'll be hopeleslly addicted to SE:V.  Just like me
   
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 I didn't hate the SEIV UI. 
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		| Nowhere in any of those threads is anybody saying "The UI sucks. It's too clumsy, clunky and click-intensive. The ship design is needlessly complex and click-intensive; there is no reason at all to have multiple decks in the ship design screen, none." 
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