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		 Is it possible to make worthy hero mod so that every nation starts out with a random hero? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Not using standard modding techniques. You could do it using some kind of seperate app which worked as a .dm generator though. Like the unit maker, only for assigning random hero monster IDs to the starting scout tags of various nations. Sounds like it might be more work than it's worth. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		It could probably be done with the RanDom program. You'd just need to ask the dev to add in options for changing variables of the capital, like starting troops and commanders. I don't think it would be hard to add. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Isn't RanDom for making maps? Or does it make mods? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		It modifies maps, e.g. by adding a commander with spesific items/troops into a random province or a province that matches certain requirements, like terrain. It wouldn't be too far-fetched to add a requirement "this province is a capital of nation X" IMHO. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Cool. Yeah this sounds like another 'mod' that is best done via maps. 
 
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		You could, however, mod nations which start with 1 or 2 unique units who have random magic paths. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		 I think giving new paths may be overpowered. Most nations heroes are thematic, and not that many open up new paths of magic. 
 
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		My chaotic maps did something like that. At the most extreme setting it gave every province a random commander, with random equipment, and random units assigned to it. That meant that each nation also had that in their starting province. It wouldnt be hard to do it with starting locations only if someone wanted (altho I really enjoyed having some strange surprise in each nation).  
 
With map commands, it doesnt have to be a created hero. It can be random selection of everything including summons, uniques, and even pretenders. Or it could be semi-random coming from a list of designed heroes. It could even be random selection from a list of heroes designed for each nation if someone wanted to put that much work in. 
 
Hmmmm can a mod assign a set unit to a nation when they start?  If Ulm always started with a commander named "Und Erdog" then a prgraom could randomly rewrite the particulars of the mod changing that character and all the other starting heroes each time you ran the program.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Yep. You can define two starting commanders when you nation-mod. In order to get the same name every time you'd have to make a new namepool though. 
 
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