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Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
Are Mind Lords immune to magic duel?
Just had a battle in which I successfully cast magic duel vs one, so either my astral mage should have died or the mind lord or both. Yet they both survived...which leads me to believe Mind Lords must be immune? Or is this a bug [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Bug.gif[/img]?
I had a few other magic duels and only my astral mages died as a result.
If the mind lords are immune, are R'lyeh aboleths as well?
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April 25th, 2007, 08:21 AM
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Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
Nope mind lords are not immune. Maybe he had an elixir of life or something equal?
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April 25th, 2007, 09:22 AM
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Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
or ritual of returning?
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April 25th, 2007, 09:34 AM
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Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
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Nope mind lords are not immune. Maybe he had an elixir of life or something equal?
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No, the mind lord had barksin amulet and amulet of the fish, only has 2 misc. slots.
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or ritual of returning?
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Nope, no ritual of returning, the mind lord went on to defeat the PD and conquer the province.
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Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
How about a simple Twist Fate or Personal Luck? Did he cast either of those? Can they even protect you from Magic Duel?
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April 25th, 2007, 10:24 AM
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Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
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How about a simple Twist Fate or Personal Luck? Did he cast either of those? Can they even protect you from Magic Duel?
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No, the mind lord did nat have a chance to cast any spell before the magic duel went off.
I would attach the game file but its my latest turn in a MP, so obviously I can't.
Is everyone 100% sure that Mind Lords aren't immune to magic duel? It will not be the first ability to exist in the game yet be absent from any rulebook/ingame description. |
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Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
As the R'yleh player in question I can attest that there is no reason I know of that the mind duel did not work. In another battle the same turn the mind duel worked (Meglobob's caster died), but this one seemed to have no effect other than a graphic appearing on the Mind Lord removing any doubt as to the target of the spell (I only had one dude anyway). I guess Mind Lord's don't duel fair..."We'll draw on three. One...Two..BLAM!"
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Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
I think I've seen this happen as well.
Let's look at the magic duel spell, first of all:
effect 27 - magic duel only.
precision of 100.
range of 100.
damage of 999 (instant death, I assume).
It has a 41 in one of the mysterious argument fields, but the rest are empty.
It has a special field of 8388736, which means it's armor negating and works underwater.
So it isn't a MR check.
My guess would be that magic duel leaves both of them alive on a tie? This is inconsistent with the documentation, I don't know what's going on.
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Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
If so that's not only inconsistent with the documentation, but also different than in Dom2.
Anyway, given the number of lizard shamen and Mind Lords involved in this war I'm guessing Bob will be further testing the Mind Lords vulnerability to mind duel. 
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Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
I tested it, so I'm 100% sure Mind Lords are not Magic-Duel-Immune. I fried a Mind Lord in a Magic Duel using an S9 Oceana pretender.
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