Jaguar - finished, Szumo declared winner

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

My decision is final- I'm going with Agartha. I've gotta settle on a strat and Pretender, though.

Little Old Lady, Tomb Raider, Who Let the Dogs Out, Earthworm Jim, or Brains... Brains....

Translated:
Suicide Crone, Ghost King, Drakaina, Ageless Olm, Risen Oracle

[llamabeast]

What's with the "suicide crone"?

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Twiceborn. Gets rid of the old age, and makes her tougher to boot. All without magic halving penalties. My test, I did lose an arm though. It's not much of a strategic advantage, but it is fun, and makes the little old lady a little less vulnerable and/or senile. Think of her as a (non-immortal) discount lich. I'm almost certain I got lucky and got a free level of death magic, to boot. I'm afraid though, that unless I can come up with a good base expansion strat, I'm going to have to go Super Combatant.

Now how do I attach screenshots, or do I have to upload them to an external hoster....




Now, those numbers are a little misleading. They're the result of six dominion. The base numbers are 21 (+25 dom, though how that math works out is beyond me... Golem Cult?), 17 strength (+6 dom, -1 arm lost), attack 12 (exp+1, fire+4), morale 18, defense 12 (+4 water, +1 exp, -1 equipment, MR 16 (+3 dom), precis 10, and leadership is 35 normal, 220 undead, 40 magic versus the original crone's 100, 150, 40.

Keep in mind both the crone and Wight Mage come without any built in equipment. And of course, she gets the weaknesses of undeath, but does get CR, PR, NNE, and Chill 7.

While, unfortunately, Twice Reborn isn't an option for my human mages, it is an option for my Oracles. I was hoping I could get around the human's old age, but alas... Well... if my Oracle's get diseased to death, I just have to give them +1 death magic, an easy enough task.

Also, unfortunately, it doesn't seem to properly update the defense when I equip the helmets. I think I'll have to hop over to the bug thread.

Huh... I played it a little further... Equipped with some lesser magic items, she died again, w/o any benefits when soloing an army 200 strong, with a dozen or so elephants. I wonder why... Breath of winter is a nice touch, though, combines with the chill nicely. I got her 100 percent or more resistance to fire, ice, poison, and if I'd still had another arm, shock.

Oh, and BTW, when she dies, and is called back, its still as a wight mage.

[lch]

w00t. I noticed the Twiceborn spell but never got to play around with it, I guess I'll give it greater attention now.

The helmet thing could have to do with her only having one arm. That has already been reported in the bug thread.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

So.. ten players? How big is Paragonos, again? I won't have access to the game till 10 tonight. It's hardly necessary, but I'd appreciate it if someone told me how many land/water provinces are available.

Is it true that you can scan a real map into the game and have it convert into a game map? Where would I look to learn more about this feature?

I'd love to fight over Florida one day.

Edit:
RE:Ich and bug
Thanks for letting me know about that.
I'm interested in seeing if Twiceborn produces different results depending on my starting pretender's skills.
FYI, while you can cast it on something big, like a Wyrm or Ageless Olm, it turns out as more of a downgrade- except for the fact that you still keep all your magic. But after a SC, a wight mage is rather dinky. But for a low cost rainbow, old-age pretender - nice.

I'm thinking of doing an experiment with a somewhat plain titan like the Lord of Rebirth (also Agartha), Forge Lord (also Agartha- do I keep the forge bonus), Master Druid (do I stay stealthy), Frost Father (chill cumulative with Wight's), and most interestingly, a Bakemono Kunshu (Shinuyama), which is immortal yet not undead, and in theory, a target for the spell. Pheonix would teach me the same lesson. Of course, I don't have time for all of these yet- so I may run a quick test with a Phoenix in my next practice of my expansion strategy.

[llamabeast]

Parganos is 116 land, 19 sea. So 10 players is not a lot of land each, but is similar to the amount you get in Gandalf's games, if any of you have ever played on them.

The Capybara game seems to have lost one of its players. There's still a couple of hours until the deadline when I said I'd look for a replacement, but it's looking less hopeful. If he doesn't show up, I'm going to restart the game and allow whoever takes his place to pick their own nation and pretender. So, I was wondering if any of you would volunteer to swap to that game? It will restart as soon as you can get your pretender to me, tomorrow hopefully.

If you would like to switch to that game, please post here and e-mail me your pretender directly (llamabeast[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net). Obviously pick a nation no-one else in Capybara has taken.

Capybara has 8 players, also on Parganos. And if someone switches I will probably leave this game with 9.

Lazy - if you use Twiceborn, make sure she dies in your dominion! That's a very costly mistake I've made before.

[Yucky]

I'm willing to switch. I think 9 players would be a more fun game on this map (the map recommends 6-8).

[zakna]

Ok, ive chosen my nation it will be Shinuyama

[llamabeast]

Cool, thanks Yucky. I already have your pretender, so I'll do the switch shortly unless Xanatos shows up.

zakna - Cool, I'll put you down for Shinuyama. I guess that means Lazy_P will probably be Agartha.

Lazy_P - It is true, but I don't know much about it. I recommend asking the question in the Mods and Maps forum.

[llamabeast]

Okay, Yucky has successfully been deported to Capybara. That leaves us with 9, which I think is good (it says 6-8, but personally I always find the provided player numbers too small - I think nine players fit fine on Parganos).