Wish and Horrors

ArkhanTheBlack · #1 April 26th, 2008, 09:08 AM

I just tried Wish for the first time to summon some funny things. However, I couldn't resist and wished for a greater horror (You never know...). Well, my wish was granted. The greater horror came, saw, and hacked me to pieces.
Okay, I guess that was intended, you shouldn't wish for horrors! Although I'd be interested if the horrors always attacks or if it's just a chance that he does (like void gate).
The point is, I'm playing R'lyeh, and horrors are pretty much 'family' (I wouldn't be surprised if some of my Vastnesses had a side job as greater horrors). However, if I summon a Seraph, it'll follow my orders just fine. An angelic being of highest morals..., follows and fights for the greater evil of Cthulhu!!! I think this thing should have attacked me and not the greater horror. If I look at the stat line of the Seraph, I'm pretty sure that it's a lot more powerfull than a greater horror when equipped (at least the greater horror I saw).
Is it possible to add some restrictions at least for the bigger monsters so that they attack summoners with opposite disposition. I really don't want be able to summon a seraph as R'lyeh, I'd prefer a greater horror a hundred times even if it's weaker.

Dedas · #2 April 26th, 2008, 09:12 AM

Nice suggestions. Should be more fitting thematically, and I know Kristoffer loves that sort of thing.

Wrana · #3 April 26th, 2008, 10:43 AM

Can only add that I completely agree. They removed angels from the common summons in Dom3, so a step in this direction was already made. With a Wish, though, it would possibly be more difficult...

Aezeal · #4 April 26th, 2008, 01:07 PM

who says R'lyeh is evil.. they are just different.. a higher being like a serpah understands

Endoperez · #5 April 26th, 2008, 01:19 PM

Exactly. Their "star city" "falling down from the heavens" would undoubtedly make a Seraph quite sad about their unreasonable fate.

It'd be interesting if Wishes for "angel", "seraph", "harbringer", etc etc various angels would instead summon one of the many possible kinds, with quite small chance of battle.

Tuidjy · #6 April 26th, 2008, 03:00 PM

> If I look at the stat line of the Seraph, I'm pretty sure that it's a
> lot more powerfull than a greater horror when equipped

This is debatable. Seraphs are powerful casters, etc. But there is at least one
horror than does about 320hp per turn of always-hit, unresistable damage.
I.e. if you are next to it, it kills you.

ArkhanTheBlack · #7 April 26th, 2008, 04:23 PM

>> who says R'lyeh is evil.. they are just different.. a higher being like a serpah understands

Last time I checked, enslaving a whole race (Atlanteans in this case) was considered evil. If the Seraph understands that as okay, he should get himself a new job as fallen angel or angel of death.

>> This is debatable. Seraphs are powerful casters, etc. But there is at least one horror than does about 320hp per turn of always-hit, unresistable damage. I.e. if you are next to it, it kills you.

Only the mid-strength greater horrors should be available. The one that killed my mage wasn't really that bad. However my pretender got once attacked by a real badass doing almost hundreds of damage points in a very short time. Fortunately my Kraken was too powerfull at this point (~1400 HP) even for such a nasty. But I agree, this horror type would be probably a bit over the top.

Loren · #8 April 26th, 2008, 04:45 PM

What if you wish for a greater horror and then have spells prepared to capture it. Does this work?

Professor_Dyar · #9 April 26th, 2008, 04:56 PM

Well, to quote the description of Late R'lyeh...

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But the Void was not to be controlled, even by the Starspawns.

ArkhanTheBlack · #10 April 26th, 2008, 05:15 PM

>> Well, to quote the description of Late R'lyeh...

Well, I think there should be a chance that things go wrong and the horror has a 'bad day'. Using the void gate is risky too, but getting a super monster like a Vastness is really worth the risk. Summoning a greater horror from wish should therefore bear a risk too.