Water queens may be way overpowered.

[Argitoth]

Aezeal: I will do that, thanks!

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Argitoth said:
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Add this to the equation:

-Twin Spear (Call Lesser Horror) in battle, not used though
-Charcoal Shield
-Amulate of Luck
-Starshine Skullcap
-Marble Armor
-Amulate of Resilience
-5 experience stars (+5 to defence and attack)
-YOU are the attacker. YOU retreat after 50 turns.

That's not a good choice of gear. Twin Spear gives luck.

[BigDisAwesome]

Thats no good cause if you were going to build an SC like that you'd want it to either have feet for Boots of Quickness, or at least 1 pick in water to cast Quicken Self.

At least I would I guess.

But I think you're arguing a moot point. Everyone knows Dominions isn't made to be a balanced game. Every nation is not necessarily on par with every other nation. Sure they may be close, but the only way to be 100% balanced is for every nation(elemental royalty ) to be the exact same. And no one really wants that do they?

[Aezeal]

ow and agri .. 5 stars for my elemental too then, and the the WQ is the attacker of course.

[Meglobob]

Water queens are not overpowered, indeed the elemental royalty as a whole is somewhat underpowered. I had a air queen recently kitted out with 50 gems worth of gear, so a 100 gem investment in total.

Killed by a 2S mind hunt. They only bothered doing 1 mind hunt because that was more than enough. 24 MR was no defence.

Elemental royalty are lucky if they last more than 2-3 months when you put them into battle against someone who knows how to kill them.

[triqui]

Argitoth said:
Edit: Better question, what would it take to prove the water queen is overpowered? What situation should the water queen, in a logical or thematic sense, lose?

I think that just becouse your cheap fire mage spamming living fire lost against a heavily tailored WQ does not mean that WQ is overpowered. Only that your cheap mage was not well suited for that particular task.

[NTJedi]

The water queens are good, but not overpowered.

Argitoth if are curious about which SCs are considered the most powerful start a poll listing the most common SCs.

Here's a small list

Wraith Lord
Elemental Royals
Tartarian
Tarrasque
Ice ArchDemons
Fire ArchDemons
DemonLords
etc; etc; etc;


Or review results from the last SC Arena competition where many community members participated. Not a single entry used a water queen.

[Wrana]

To NT Jedi:
Yes, and any Tartarian kind should ne reviewed individually. +manifold national ones...
And could you provide link on the said Arena?
I agree that Water Queen isn't among the better elemental royalty - even in SP I only used them to conquer seas.

[VedalkenBear]

I suggest that we create a water ritual that allows 'underwater teleportation'. Move from one underwater province to another. That should definitely help the Water Queen.

[Tuidjy]

Argitoth. That particular water queen can be easily killed by a fire mage
casting Heat from Hell, teamed with a fire immune bane lord (for example) who
does enough damage to get through the regeneration. By the way, she is not
particularly well equiped - one can do MUCH better.

But in general, many players rank Elemental Royalty like this:

Air Queens
Earth Kings
Water Queens
Fire Kings

While in general I agree with the above, in many cases, some of the lower rated
royalties are better suited to a task. But as a rule, to kill a SC, you tailor
an attack for him. Then your enemy teleports his counter, and probably win.
There is NOTHING that is unbeatble, except for Mist of Deception cast by a
defender who retreats on the next turn.