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 I'd give the Huntsman hatchet, dagger and shortbow. Whether or not the staff would fit a British low-born warrior, the unit is modeled after Forester, and thus should should be ambidextrous dual-wielder. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Yeah an axe/dagger/shortbow does make sense. Makes it quite an unusual troop too, while similar to the LA Ulmish rangers. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Sorry, I did mean hatchet. I don't pay much attention to the order weapons actually resolve in though and I'm not sure I want to start now   |  
	
		
	
	
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 Here's what I wrote, in an other thread. 
 Also, I meant hatchet (253), not an axe. Hatchet is dam 5, att/def 0, len 1, while axe is dam 7, att/def -1, len 1. Hatchet is clearly much better than a normal axe.
 
 Also, dagger/hatchet is better than hatchet/dagger, because this way the dagger's weaker strike lowers defence and makes it more likely the more powerful weapon hits.
 
 
 Yeah, I was pretty sure you knew what I meant, I just wanted to be sure. I'm not even sure if there are any units armed with a hatchet in base game. It's pretty rare.
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				 OT - \"forbidden weapon\" question 
 To Sombre:Well, either you are going to discuss the question or not. If you are going to discuss it than do this. If not, than I personally am not going to take your prejudices as arguments on any other questions.
 Do you have any meaningful objections against using a weapon already existing in the game in the mod? Or are you going to use the immortal I-see-it-so argument ad nauseum? I'm certainly not going to take such "arguments" or stop making my point of view on silliness of such clear.
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 To Endoperez: 
Well, ambidexterity is a learned skill. You can consider that their apprentices hadn't learned it currently...    
There are units armed with hatchet. IIRC, Bear Tribe Warriors & some other tribesmen. 
And while from the mechanical point of view dagger/hatchet IS better, this is what I would call silly - primary weapon used in off-hand! |  
	
		
	
	
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		| Wrana said: Well, either you are going to discuss the question or not. If you are going to discuss it than do this. If not, than I personally am not going to take your prejudices as arguments on any other questions.
 
 
 |  As I said before, this thread isn't the place for a discussion of the quarterstaff as a weapon. So no, I'm not going to discuss it.
 
As for you not 'taking my prejudices as arguments'; I don't care. I'm not here to influence your opinion on anything.
 
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		| Do you have any meaningful objections against using a weapon already existing in the game in the mod? Or are you going to use the immortal I-see-it-so argument ad nauseum? I'm certainly not going to take such "arguments" or stop making my point of view on silliness of such clear.
 
 |  Immortal I-see-it-so argument? I'm not familiar with that one. Astral hook, devour soul and tiny bite are already in the game. I can categorically state I'm not using any of those in this mod either. For different reasons, but again I don't feel the need to justify them to you.
 
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				 Re: OT - \"forbidden weapon\" question 
 Sombre:
 Ok, I understand most of my things are rather suggestion for CBM. Making wardens non-sacred and build-everywhere is no option for CCM either?
 
 And there are many people throwing ideas around, do you have a task-list of some specific things that should be done?
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 I think this thread is just for completely new units for nations... all other stuff including adjusting existing units is for CBM 
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