Random items not random?

[NTJedi]

I've received a clam of pearls on turn_3 from a battle.

During a hotseat MP game one of my human opponents found a ring of sorcery from an event.

When having a summoned commander explore 'city of the damned' during an SP game I found a second unique artifact, thus two identical unique artifacts existed during the game.
(not even the Wish spell could make that happen.)

[Evil Dave]

I've also gotten a Ring of Wizardry, a Staff of the Ivy King, and a Staff of the Elements in different games, as well as tons of trinkets. I usually play SP w/ Luck 3, 'cause it's fun.

[PvK]

I've received many good items randomly. I got a Soul Contract, and I think the Flying Ship in Dom 2.

[K]

So what people are saying is that they have no idea how random items are picked, despite my proof that its not random.

[Ballbarian]

Six Crowns of Command, four Swords of Sharpness, five Rings of Frost, and four other assorted items.

How is that proof that the items are not random? Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention, but from the prior posts, it sounds pretty random to me. If you are referring to the tendency for lower level items to be more common or weighted higher than artifacts, that does not mean that it is not random.

Sorry if I missed your point.

[Zeldor]

I sometimes get really nice items. In MP I got clams, that soul contract that gives devils, armour of souls etc.

[Kristoffer O]

They are random. At least when I enter them in the code. I just write 'magicitem,1', or magicitem,2' or 'magicitem,3'. 1 means most likely a trinket. 2 a more powerful item, etc.

I never get the same item. In my current MP I've gotten 4 items, all trinkets, none the same.

[K]

Kristoffer O said:
They are random. At least when I enter them in the code. I just write 'magicitem,1', or magicitem,2' or 'magicitem,3'. 1 means most likely a trinket. 2 a more powerful item, etc.

I never get the same item. In my current MP I've gotten 4 items, all trinkets, none the same.

That's super wierd. So my test game is just a statistical anomoly?

[Edi]

Yes. What are the odds of getting, out of a potential pool of 560 random sites, 3x Enchanted Tower in one province? Yet I saw that happen just the other day when Kaljamaha and I were playing a co-op game. Had 3 arenas in one game, though that was way back in DomPPP.

Statistical anomalies happen sometimes, there's a reason why the concept of data outliers is fairly important in science. One instance does not a proof make. It could be that in a specific game, the random seed for some reason gets "stuck" so you would get more than one of the same item. But I don't think so.

If there are three categories of items available, with a specific event giving a higher probability for one class of item, getting several instances of that event would reduce the pool of potential choices, lowering the odds of getting the same item twice. Got two or three berserker pelts myself in one game, for example.

So I'd say it's random, all right.

[chrispedersen]

I almost ALWAYS get arenas... more than 6-7 in some games.
three is nothing...