MA C'tis Pretender Problem!

Executor · #1 June 13th, 2008, 05:26 PM

What are the best pretender choises for MA C'tis?
I tested MA C'tis in SP but quite a lot of pretenders get diseased, and then feeble minded,
so what are the safe pretenders to take exepct from serpent king ( really week ), and mother of monsters ( also week in my opinion )

JimMorrison · #2 June 13th, 2008, 05:56 PM

Those 2 are the only "cold-blooded" pretenders available. I have NO idea why MA C'tis has the range of pretenders that they do, since they're dominion is putrid.

I also don't know why PR doesn't resist the effects.....

AND, I also don't know whether or not Lifeless satisfies the criteria of "cold-blooded", that would increase the list a bit.

MaxWilson · #3 June 13th, 2008, 06:04 PM

I believe Lifeless units, like undead units, are immune to disease. At least they still heal--I'm not sure if they get additional afflictions from the disease.

-Max

JimMorrison · #4 June 13th, 2008, 06:04 PM

Well, I just ran a Mother of Serpents (PR 100%, not cold blood) and an Oracle (Lifeless, not PR) both through 2 full years without getting diseased.

I started a game with a Titan, just to confirm, he was diseased on turn 6.

So, looks like PR or Lifelessness are fine as well. Still no idea why there are any on the list that can't survive in the dominion.....

quantum_mechani · #5 June 13th, 2008, 06:07 PM

Safe pretenders (disease wise): Oracle, Sphinx, Blood Fountain, Monolith, Wyrm, Father of Serpents, Lord of the Summer Plague, Mother of Serpents, Prince of Death, Liche, Master Liche, Sauroliche, Ghost King, Mother of Monsters, Green Dragon, Vampire Queen, Phionix, Serpent King.

Endoperez · #6 June 13th, 2008, 06:10 PM

Lucky units can survive for two years without problems.

RamsHead · #7 June 13th, 2008, 06:11 PM

Coldbloodedness, swamp survival, lifelessness, and being a demon I believe offer immunity to the Miasma. Being undead without lifelessness will cause the unit to get diseased but will not cause HP reduction. It will keep the unit from regaining any lost HP unless they have regeneration or are healed in some way.

MaxWilson · #8 June 13th, 2008, 06:22 PM

Ramshead,

Are you sure disease prevents healing for undead? I don't recall this being the case with my Wraithlords that held Woundflame, even when they ended a battle at less than full HP.

-Max

RamsHead · #9 June 13th, 2008, 07:19 PM

You are correct Max. I was mistaken.

Xietor · #10 June 13th, 2008, 08:50 PM

poison resist offers no protection. Not sure why KO never edited the MA Ctis pretenders. Think it was a time management problem, but the issue was brought to his attention before.

New players learn the hard way I am afraid. I think even one of the MA ctis special summons is not immune to miasma, at least it was not at the time i played in perpetuality, but that may have been fixed(scorpion man).