.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 3: The Awakening

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old September 4th, 2008, 11:15 PM

sum1lost sum1lost is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 674
Thanks: 7
Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts
sum1lost is on a distinguished road
Default Horror Enslaver

So, on a scale of lunacy to effective, how well would this work as a horror-enslaving machine:

S9F9 oracle with green eye, forbidden light, amulet of reinvigoration, Reinvig Heart

Set to cast: Phoenix pyre, Enslave MindX4.

?

Interesting concept, at least? Create a massive horror beacon and then enslave them?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old September 4th, 2008, 11:26 PM
HoneyBadger's Avatar

HoneyBadger HoneyBadger is offline
General
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,445
Thanks: 85
Thanked 79 Times in 51 Posts
HoneyBadger is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Horror Enslaver

Very interesting!

If anyone can confirm that they've ever enslaved a Horror, then I would say 'sure, why not?'
__________________
You've sailed off the edge of the map--here there be badgers!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old September 4th, 2008, 11:39 PM
Redfrog's Avatar

Redfrog Redfrog is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: A little pool
Posts: 94
Thanks: 15
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Redfrog is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Horror Enslaver

You can enslaved a Horror, but you can't keep them.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old September 4th, 2008, 11:57 PM

sum1lost sum1lost is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 674
Thanks: 7
Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts
sum1lost is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Horror Enslaver

So the only way to keep them is via wishes? Dang.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old September 5th, 2008, 12:23 AM

K K is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 773
Thanks: 2
Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts
K is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Horror Enslaver

Quote:
Originally Posted by sum1lost View Post
So the only way to keep them is via wishes? Dang.
There is a fringe method:

Horrors sent to hell return and attack a random province, and they hang around turn to turn. I'm pretty sure that they can then be charmed, enslaved, or hellbound.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old September 5th, 2008, 04:28 AM
Olive's Avatar

Olive Olive is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Montpellier, France
Posts: 208
Thanks: 3
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Olive is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Horror Enslaver

I had run tests a long time ago, even if you enslave them, you can't keep them for long as Redfrog said. At best they stay in your army a few turns, then vanish. It's not worth the wish+gor cost.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old September 5th, 2008, 12:53 PM

Loren Loren is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 739
Thanks: 1
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Loren is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Horror Enslaver

I haven't tried Enslave Mind on them. I have tried wishing for them--no need for a GOR but they don't last very long. I have tried enslaving them with tartarian chains for absolutely zero success.

Note, also, that I have had no luck with Phoenix Pyre against them. Never once has it fired even though it always should have. Conceivably this is due to using seraphs but I see no reason that should matter.

Note that it doesn't matter if the horror came due to a wish or simply a horror attack--I've had the guy wishing for horrors hit with a random one with exactly the same result.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old September 5th, 2008, 12:59 PM
Nikelaos's Avatar

Nikelaos Nikelaos is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London, England
Posts: 354
Thanks: 9
Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts
Nikelaos is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Horror Enslaver

yep horrors will just keep going away, however you could give yourself some tartarian chains and thug out, the oracle isn't the Best SC chassis but by making a habit of enslaving all the horrors and ashen angels who attack you, you could gear that oracle up and send him with his court of enslaved bodyguards, also put some turmoil on the scales and you should in theory have a nice flow of ashen angels and horrors coming in. other than tartarian chains and the forbidden light the rest of the equipment is up to you, experiment and find what works.
__________________
Melita Mod
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old September 5th, 2008, 01:26 PM

Zeldor Zeldor is offline
General
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Poland
Posts: 3,414
Thanks: 26
Thanked 73 Times in 49 Posts
Zeldor is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Horror Enslaver

When you wish for horrors they come as commanders already. And there is like 50-50 chance they will attack you instead. And they don't stay long.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old September 5th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Olive's Avatar

Olive Olive is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Montpellier, France
Posts: 208
Thanks: 3
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Olive is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Horror Enslaver

Well, it has changed since my tests (more than 1 year ago), or I have been unlucky. When wishing for greater horrors, they attacked me all the time iirc. I used an empowered Seraph to wish for and enslave them.

Maybe it would be cheaper to have blood+astral mages sending horrors to a province where your 'mind enslavers' are waiting. But if they leave your troops after a few turns, it's pointless.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.