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October 19th, 2008, 06:56 PM
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Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [join now! - 7 spots left]
I disagree with bidding points for pretenders - the actual application would work very poorly. We did test runs on this a while back and it was a headache mutiplied by a disaster.
I'd be fine with bidding something else - especially something that could be modded using map commands.
Suggestion:
Everyone has 500 pts to bid, you bid independently on two lists of nations, but you draw from the same 500 pts for each list and both partners of the team get the same starting stuff.
For each pt you don't spend, you start with 1 gold.
For every *full* 200 pts you don't bid, you start with 1 months gem income from your capital.
If you have more than 200 unbid points, for every *full* 100 pts bid past that, you start with +50% to your starting army.
If your list is exhausted without you winning a bid on any nation, you pay 0 points for a random nation among those left over.
Since a team game needs fixed start locations anyway, this could be handled with map commands and wouldn't require any communication back and forth with the players.
It would also have a more desirable effect, to my mind - weaker nations would get to start with gems and armies to jumpstart their defense, rather than weakening stronger nations (which makes early expansion harder and slows the entire game down.)
Thoughts?
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October 19th, 2008, 07:37 PM
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Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [join now! - 7 spots left]
I think we will stay with points. There are about 50 nations for 24 slots. For good bidding we'd need 30 nations max. Because with 50 nations you'd be able to easily get very good nation as a 2nd, so no problem with bidding like crazy for 1st. And I think that flaws of bidding pretender points were explained clearly enough, so I won't repeat it
P.S. We still need 6 more players.
P.P.S. Tomorrow I will show a map for tests [version with all provs and borders, but without magic sites and garrisons], so you can see how it will work [and find any mistakes that I can correct before putting magic sites and garrisons].
Some cool preview from earlier stage:
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October 19th, 2008, 11:37 PM
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Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [join now! - 7 spots left]
Interesting.
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October 20th, 2008, 12:12 AM
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Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [join now! - 7 spots left]
Yeah, I managed to get 18 provs per team in starting area. Caves are still not there. I will make borders on plains in a way that will give 4 provs between caps [so your cap - indie prov - garrison - garrison - indie prov - enemy cap]. So map will have few more provs, hard to say exactly how many, as I didn't process the map with map editor yet.
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October 21st, 2008, 09:44 PM
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Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [join now! - only 6 spots left]
I'm really looking forward to this. I have been playing with 1-3 pts nations and .. oddly enough finding strategies to hold their own.. fun as hell.
Still need a partner tho
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October 22nd, 2008, 03:08 PM
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Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [join now! - 8 spots left]
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMorrison
Apparently MadFrancis and I will be teammates.
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Just pointing this out again.
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October 22nd, 2008, 04:04 PM
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Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [join now! - only 6 spots left]
Ok, updating now
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October 23rd, 2008, 05:01 PM
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Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [join now! - only 5! spots left]
I would like to sign up.
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October 24th, 2008, 06:34 PM
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Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [join now! - only 5! spots left]
Denisius:
What is your experience?
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October 25th, 2008, 05:15 AM
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Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [join now! - only 5! spots left]
I actually think I'm going to bow out of this game. It's seeming to be just a little more complex than I'm going to have time to commit to thinking about.
I've got a lot going on right now, and I hate playing a game that I can't take time to think through.
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