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				Sounds overpowered honestly. 
 
Maybe make it cost 10 gems to make 11, but even there is still is ultimately overpowered. 
 
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 If it's too powerful make it a percentage chance.
 
What I was looking at was once your research is done you have a lot of mages that are nearly useless, I was looking at something for them to do.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		You can use them in battle, you know. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Hell once your research is done you should have gems falling out your *** anyway. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Might be fun to have a few more Pretender chassis that are gem-producers, or can turn into gem-producers, though. Especially for some of the gems that don't have forgeable item-makers, like bloodstones, clams, or fever fetishes. I can't think of any Pretenders that make Death gems, currently. for instance-but I might be forgetting something. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		There's a bit of that in CB1.3 right now.  And some pretenders that used to get one or two get more.  Here's the gods that were changed: 
 
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		Do any get death-gems? I always seem to run short on those. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		In CBM, Lord of Rebirth gets death gem. Also the famous artifact The Sickle Whose Corp is Pain can reliably produce 10-30 death gems per turn if you use it right. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		It always seems to me that death sites are the easiest to find. It's just that death summons and spells are so good that there is a lot of use for them! And the global Well of Misery, while prolific, is the hardest to achieve. 
 
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				Might be fun to have a few more Pretender chassis that are gem-producers, or can turn into gem-producers, though. Especially for some of the gems that don't have forgeable item-makers, like bloodstones, clams, or fever fetishes. I can't think of any Pretenders that make Death gems, currently. for instance-but I might be forgetting something. 
			
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				You guys know Dominions is largely inspired by Ars Magica right? 
			
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