New patch soon?

[AreaOfEffect]

Even all of that still doesn't explain why some locations that don't have any magic sites found are skipped yet contain magic sites when manually selected and searched. I suppose this will still occur even after the next patch is released.

[MaxWilson]

Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect

Even all of that still doesn't explain why some locations who don't have any magic sites found are skipped yet contain magic sites when manually selected and searched. I suppose this will still occur even after the next patch is released.

Sure it does, unless there are facts you're not telling me. Consider a hypothetical province Green Gallows, which has zero discovered sites, and one undiscovered level 3 death site. If I have searched manually with a D2 mage in Green Gallows, when I monthly-cast Dark Knowledge the automatic site-searching algorithm I outlined will skip Green Gallows because it's been partially searched already for D. The patch enhancement will make it go back and search Green Gallows after all the "prime" locations have been searched. This makes sense because a totally "fresh" province with no discovered sites and no Death searches yet is more likely to have a Death site than Green Gallows is (because a fresh province may produce a D1, D2, D3, or D4 site, whereas Green Gallows will yield only a D3 or D4 site. The number of discovered sites matters because it's relatively improbable to discover a D site in a province which is already known to have e.g. 2 air sites, since the average total number of sites in a province is only about 2 anyway, depending upon what site frequency you are playing with and what the terrain type is). If you crank the math, the site-searching algorithm is already a pretty good rule of thumb for searching. But Green Gallows is not a worthless province even if it is less probable, and in fact we already know that it *does* have a D3 site, so the enhanced algorithm will eventually get around to finding the hidden site.

-Max

[vfb]

There is an Air-4 site which is plains-only. Fire-4 sites are waste or cave only.

Your capitol is also currently targeted for search if your mage is in the capitol and finds no other valid targets. It would be nice if the automatic search spells just didn't cast when there are no targets, instead of targeting the current province.

edit You're talking to fast for me to keep up. I though the patch will re-target provinces that have 2 or 3 discovered sites, not provinces that have already been manually searched for the path.

[MaxWilson]

Originally Posted by vfb

I though the patch will re-target provinces that have 2 or 3 discovered sites, not provinces that have already been manually searched for the path.

Well, I guess we'll find out. AFAIK JK hasn't said anything except what's on the progress page,

"* Monthly site searching with spells stopped targeting when no more prime suspects were available. Now it will go through the less likely locations as well after the good once are searched."

Come the patch, there will now be three categories of provinces: search-ASAP, search-later (new category), and don't-search. Only JK knows for sure which things are getting moved from the don't-search category to the newly-created search-later. It sounded to me like partly-searched provinces would go to search-later but obviously it's possible to read it both ways.
-Max

[AreaOfEffect]

These instances of provinces being passed over have occured when I only site search with spells. Therefore your explaination does not explain what I've encountered. I've already observed the behavior you speak of and accounted for that.

[Skirmisher]

Originally Posted by Endoperez

Have you tried creating a new game with a different name? The bug that's fixed only happens when the new game has the same name as the old game it replaces, AFAIK.

Yes renaming did nothing to help.
I have no issues if I want to use a random generated map,generated by the game. I have an issue if I try to load ANY custom made map. They don't want to load. I can see the map previewed before but then in the game its a completely different map. I have issues if I try to use maps generated by RAN DOM,where the proper map isnt loading ,alot like the custom map problem. So I guess this won't be fixed, thats a drag.
I can see my Dom 3 usage going down. Whats the point in having all these pre made maps if you can't use any of them?

[archaeolept]

just restart dominions and it should fix it.

[MaxWilson]

Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect

These instances of provinces being passed over have occured when I only site search with spells. Therefore your explaination does not explain what I've encountered. I've already observed the behavior you speak of and accounted for that.

Okay, those are the facts you didn't mention before. I don't know, that's kind of weird. Are there any more details you can offer? Do you see this frequently? What are some example provinces that you've seen it happen to, and what sites did they have already, what paths had been searched and to what level, what site search spell were you casting? How long had you owned these provinces? (Maybe information about manual searches from another nation is somehow "leaking" into your own? That would be a bug.)

You might want to write that up for the bug thread.

-Max

[MaxWilson]

Originally Posted by archaeolept

just restart dominions and it should fix it.

Did you mean "reinstall"? If that doesn't work, contact Shrapnel tech support because there's something wrong on your computer. Shrapnel tech support is pretty good and should be able to help you well before the next patch comes out.

-Max

[Skirmisher]

Originally Posted by MaxWilson

Did you mean "reinstall"? If that doesn't work, contact Shrapnel tech support because there's something wrong on your computer. Shrapnel tech support is pretty good and should be able to help you well before the next patch comes out.

-Max

I went ahead and reinstalled it.
I began having these problem's right after I installed RAN DOM,so maybe that corrupted my install somehow.

Hopefully it will work right now. As I said before the game would work, but only if I use a game generated random map.