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		If it isn't the end-game, I will likely fight to the last man. I'll even pull a Gandalf and try my best to maintain dominion and a province. In my last turn I pass my belongings to someone else. 
 
More often though I see the end of the game as it approaches. This is a little different. I suppose I still fight to the last man, but I also like to experiment. I might even get a tad lazy since I know that I can't affect the end at all. Though a part of that has to do with committing to other games that have more promise. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I've tended to go down to the last man in the (admittedly few) MP games I've played. Though, in all of them I somehow managed to end with a war with THE big player or A big player. I don't think I'd ever go AI though. Trying to deal massive damage (giant enemy crab!) is really fun. I'll probably end up experimenting too. Will this formation of 50 researchers, all set to Cast Generic Fireball Compensation actually stop the enemy army? How much damage could it do? Would it be more effective if I gave them Fire Swords, mass buffs and set them to "Charge of the Unarmored Brigade"? 
 
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				I think there should be sticky in MP forum section with rules of ingame bahaviour, such as: all the insulting speeches should be adressed to the nation, not to player controling it; never threat a war to player in another game for some actions he made in current game; never give gold, gems or items to another player in one game in order to receive gold, gems or items from him in another game; and finally, if you do not want to play anymore, please respect all other players enough to inform them about it, so they could find a sub, or at least put yourself to AI. 
 
 Personaly I never set myself to AI yet - I try to fight until I can do at least minor damage to my opponent(s), when I have noone left to fight I send all my money, gems and items to people who helped me, or to enemies of my enemies, and continue to send money/gems every turn until I lose my last province. 
			
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		HAHAHAHAH, I wonder which game started this thread, thanks Vfb and Quiti 
 
If I am backstabed, I'll do everything in my power to kill and ruin that bastard.  
Will do anything in my power to wreck all diplomacy in the game and try to manipulate people or help decide who the winner is by sending everything I've got. Depends on the situation.  
 
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never threat a war to player in another game for some actions he made in current game; never give gold, gems or items to another player in one game in order to receive gold, gems or items from him in another game 
 
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Forum Rules are easier to settle on and enforce. Game Rules tend to be debatable and voluntary. 
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		Maybe it was the way WingedDog phrased it.  Or maybe I don't understand what you mean by "second part"?  Here's how Sheap put it: 
 
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		   Gandalf!  
 
That's the third time (2nd time in this thread) you have recently messed up quotes and either made it seem like I said something someone else said, or someone else said something I said.
 
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