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				They never fail morale checks, that's what 99 morale means   
If you want it on your thug, berserker's pelt (through nature) & the Flesh Eater axe (through blood) is your goto items, though I imagine the berserker nature buffs in thaumaturgy could work like a charm
 
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		thanks vfb. 
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				And then you just need to meet some undead or berserkers to totally ruin your day.    
			
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 If they're berserked, they do, because their morale shoots up to 99.  You could try Fear and/or Breath of Winter, plus two shields, and hope that you didn't wound anyone with a useless kick.
 
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		Not to mention dying to any old mage with Frozen Heart or Incinerate or Drain Life. 
 
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				So, having a high-dominion Virtue with a posse of ghosts might actually work?  Excellent... 
			
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		It probably *would* work, but Awe is boring compared to Banefield shields (the King of Banefires is my favorite SC).    It's just a battle full of your guy hitting the enemy over and over again while they refuse to hit back. Contrast that with the fun of everybody aging themselves to deaths in little puffs of blood, or even better, turning into red 999s from Aegis.
  
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				But you're still going to die to Morale=30 or Morale=50 units, if all you're counting on is Awe. 
			
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				But you're still going to die to Morale=30 or Morale=50 units, if all you're counting on is Awe. 
			
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 Well it's great against indies - and in the case of the Virtue (built in flying adds extra options), boosting MR appropriately means that you can use her later to harass mundane forces who are not adequately mage supported, or just to raid on her own.  Just don't make the same mistake that I did, and assume that you can reliably take down 10 Abysian PD without FR.  :S
 
Awe is a funny trick though, its overall usefulness wanes somewhat as the game progresses, and more elite/thug/SC/undead forces come into play.  But in many cases, a few thugs with a bit of awe at the front of a clash of huge conventional armies, can really bolster your line's durability significantly.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Lol vfb they removed your image of the nice Lady    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				But you're still going to die to Morale=30 or Morale=50 units, if all you're counting on is Awe. 
			
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 Or getting shot/spelled in the face, or getting an unlucky roll. Awe is good when combined with say, high prot and mr. On its own, not so hot.  
			
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 Curiosity had me trying the Death 5/Domnions 10 Virtue against independents. What happened?  
Air Shield -> Attack Rear, killed by 20 javelins from lion tribe warriors 
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