is aircraft worth it? - Page 4

Wdll · #31 April 16th, 2009, 06:48 PM

While I believe the way the AI handles air defence is fine, I wouldn't say the same about the placement of immobile SAMs. It places 3-6 units in a 3x3 area. As soon as you find one, they are all dead.

Suhiir · #32 April 16th, 2009, 07:27 PM

Artificial Intelligences - aren't.

Marek_Tucan · #33 April 17th, 2009, 12:10 AM

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While I believe the way the AI handles air defence is fine, I wouldn't say the same about the placement of immobile SAMs. It places 3-6 units in a 3x3 area. As soon as you find one, they are all dead.

Which is only realistic, mind you

You cannot run the data cables too far

Wdll · #34 April 17th, 2009, 12:38 AM

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While I believe the way the AI handles air defence is fine, I wouldn't say the same about the placement of immobile SAMs. It places 3-6 units in a 3x3 area. As soon as you find one, they are all dead.

Which is only realistic, mind you

You cannot run the data cables too far

I am not so sure how realistic it is to put all your air defences in a 200x200 meters zone.

Marek_Tucan · #35 April 17th, 2009, 02:34 PM

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I am not so sure how realistic it is to put all your air defences in a 200x200 meters zone.

Take it as simulation of external FC radar - bear in minf that in SP, EACH SAM unit has its own, so keeping 'em concentrated offsets it a bit.

Wdll · #36 April 17th, 2009, 04:25 PM

Well, even if I accept this as "realistic", it is a huge exploit-game balance issue IMO. The human player has to choose to either annihilate all the AI's static air defences in one turn as long as he locates a single unit of them, or ignore them to not exploit this, which doesn't feel very right either. I don't know, I just hope that the way the AI places them changes in the future. It's not a game breaking issue (and I am sure for many it is not even an issue), but...

Imp · #37 April 17th, 2009, 05:35 PM

Same goes with your arty it should not be spread all over the map, in a nod to game scale tend to place mine 100-150m apart rather than adjacent.
Restrict your arty or its caliber & you will have a harder time takeing them out.
If mobile hit them with a mortar so they scatter if you don't like it then find them again.

Suhiir · #38 April 17th, 2009, 09:30 PM

*blinks*

Who needs a harder time taking them out?
Maybe half the time, probably closer to 35%, do I manage to actually destroy the AI's artillery. After 2,3, often 4 barrages of counterbattery (using an entire battery of my guns VS one single position/hex) by me the crew may .. . may . . . abandon the weapon.

I sometimes wonder if I'm playing the same game folks talk about here *chuckles*.

Wdll · #39 April 17th, 2009, 10:02 PM

What is the point of spreading out my artillery? Does the AI ever attack it?

Imp · #40 April 18th, 2009, 12:13 AM

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What is the point of spreading out my artillery? Does the AI ever attack it?

Thats most certainly a yes but not in a half hearted maner seems to be mainly if its struggling for targets it will slap you hard. And I dont play the AI much.