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				 Re: CarCrash - New EA Game - CBM - Open To All (Upload Pretenders) 
 I probably should have been more specific above    
A restart in my books should only happen on turn 1 or 2. If nobody reports any problems after the first turn, then restarts are strictly not allowed. Since at that point, in theory, you would have had a chance to avoid any game destroying events. ie. Setting your Mictlan priest/prophet to sacrifice on turn 2.
 
I have noticed that some games in the past have restarted as late as turn 7-8-9. Which to me is just crazy talk!
 
So basically, if anyone gets a knight horde etc from turn 3 onwards then it's just bad luck, and please don't try asking for a restart.
 
 
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					Originally Posted by Jazzepi  FYI, I believe that one of the developers confirmed that certain events, such as those that you mention, can't happen in the first 3-4 turns. |  Thanks for this info Jazzepi. I remember several threads before that debated the issue, with some saying that these events (a)do happen (b)shouldn't happen (c)couldn't happen. Didn't know the delevopers had confirmed that (c) is actually the truth. It's good to know this.
 
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				April 16th, 2009, 01:38 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: CarCrash - New EA Game - CBM - Open To All (Upload Pretenders) 
 I´d change the thrad title to "running" to avoid confusion. 
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					Originally Posted by Fantomen  I´d change the thrad title to "running" to avoid confusion. |  Thanks for the reminder Fantomen    
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				 Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running) 
 I've just PM'd the two players who haven't got their first turns in. 
 PsiSoldier looks to be a forum regular, so pretty confident that Agartha won't stale. The Mictlan player however, charshep, hasn't posted anywhere since signing up for this game, so I'm slightly worried that they might have gone AWOL. And an AI or staling  EA/LA Mictlan usually just means a free early dom kill + 2nd capital for it's neighbour, which would lead to a major bit of unbalancing that I'd certainly be looking to avoid in this game.
 
 Also don't see much point in keeping hold of the master player-nation list anymore, so will put it up on the status page.
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 If Mictlan stales the first turn, I suggest you get a sub.So, Jazzepir has Sauromatia, nice.
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 I'm really hoping I can head-off any first turn stales. Will wait another few hours and if I still haven't heard anything from Mictlan (still confident PsiSoldier will be ok) then I'll try looking for a sub. 
 Although at this point I'd like to take a quick vote if I can. If Mictlan does need to be subbed, should I do any / all of ........
 
 1) Offer the sub a restart so that they can design their own Mictlan Pretender.
 2) Offer the sub a new random non-water nation and of course a restart.
 3) Drop Mictlan, and restart with 13 nations.
 4) Let the game run and hope a sub can be found for Mictlan who is happy to sub-into the game as is.
 5) Turn Mictlan AI.
 
 My own vote would probably be for 3, as that should ensure the quickest restart. Since options 1 or 2 would need extra time due to Pretender designing, and I really don't want to see 4 or 5 happen, And I think that would give someone too much of an unfair advantage early on. As we all know the AI can't handle the EA/LA Mictlan dominion.
 
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 Personally I'm for option 4 if it comes to that.I've seen what restarts and rollback do in the first couple of turns of the game, so it's gonna get ugly.
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 I'm for 5. The problem with 4 is that the game will never quickhost, ultimately dragging it out more than a restart would. 
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 I wouldn't AI mictlan, of all nations, due to the dom kill. Pause and look for a sub befor ehe stales, shouldn't be too hard to find a taker for mictlan early game |  
	
		
	
	
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