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				August 8th, 2009, 08:24 AM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Executor  And take a look at Yarg, turn 20, two players dead, and there are some on the verge as well, and I think they're all fighting it out. |  True, but YARG had bullseye marked capitals, which helps no end in directing rush nations to their nearest target.
 
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				August 8th, 2009, 08:28 AM
			
			
			
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				August 8th, 2009, 09:25 AM
			
			
			
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 A sub has been found to take over Zeldors nation for the moment to keep the nations from stalieng, however this is only a temporary situation until I menage to find a full time sub to take over. |  
	
		
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				August 8th, 2009, 10:26 AM
			
			
			
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 Wow, that was a fast sub hunt! It appears we've found a permanent sub to step in instead of Zeldor.
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				August 8th, 2009, 12:23 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: New game - The Art of War, Fight! 
 Great!  Hopefully people will continue to let you know if they fail a morale check for this game, instead of just clicking AI.  Although I also hope that people will just stick it out and try their hardest, too. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: New game - The Art of War, Fight! 
 Zeldor, it's also in stellar bad taste to denigrate the effort of not only the Eriu player but also every person he's fought.  No "wow, impressive performance", instead it's "Lolz, he's only winning by the good luck of having terrible opponents.  You guys are all lame, everyone but me is a loser who doesn't know how to play so I'm quitting.".  You've at best got a very spotty idea of any maneuvers and counters tried in wars you're not involved in, and there are some pretty good players in this game - it's astoundingly arrogant to claim nobody is even trying. Your behavior in this game has been atrocious enough to earn you a spot on my very short ban list.  Not that I expect this to be a terribly devastating announcement, I'm just letting you know now not to try and join any games I'm hosting.  You're right that the reason people make invite only games is because they don't want to see stuff that happened in this game - namely your behavior. 
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				August 8th, 2009, 04:58 PM
			
			
			
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 I thought the whole point of the "No Diplo" part of RAND games was so players DID have a chance to fight a whole bunch of 1 vs 1 wars and to avoid dogpiling. And as it stands, the graphs show that there are a bunch of players more or less equal, and no clear leader. That's all everyone is able to tell from public intel anyway. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Wow, quite the controversy.  Some perspective from a noob: Congratulating Eriu for winning is like congratulating the tallest third grader in a school on making the NBA.  Better chance, yes.  Guaranteed?  Naaaa.I'm having fun, a lot of it!  Thanks to everyone I have fought, or stared at suspiciously over our borders.Thanks to all the previous, current, and future subs for keeping the game interesting (and especially the admins for finding them!)
 
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				 Re: New game - The Art of War, Fight! 
 As an outsider, I'd just like to thank Calahan for pointing out to me the major difference between fighting to the very end and going AI, namely the AI's habit of suiciding out of all its forts.  I have been watching my brother's performance in Cripple Fight, and though Arco has been essentially irrelavant since around turn 35, tgbob stuck through it and managed to survive and tie up his resources till turn 60!  That has probably made a huge difference by preventing him from eliminating any other nations.  This really throws into perspective for me the importance of fighting to the last.  Thanks to Calahan and tgbob for teaching me this. |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by Trumanator  As an outsider, I'd just like to thank Calahan for pointing out to me the major difference between fighting to the very end and going AI, namely the AI's habit of suiciding out of all its forts.  I have been watching my brother's performance in Cripple Fight, and though Arco has been essentially irrelavant since around turn 35, tgbob stuck through it and managed to survive and tie up his resources till turn 60!  That has probably made a huge difference by preventing him from eliminating any other nations. This really throws into perspective for me the importance of fighting to the last.  Thanks to Calahan and tgbob for teaching me this. |  My thanks should go to you then Trumanator for observing, listening and learning, just what a huge difference not going AI really does make. I wish more players could be enlightened    
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