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				 Re: MP Guide to LA Ermor - The Ashen Empire 
 Just don't combine rigor mortis w/your enemy's shark attack.  You can ask Calahan how that turned out     SOOOO many sharks eating undead. |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by Agema  Rigor Mortis is an absolute killer. It's the perfect companion to spamming soulless and skeletons. Granted, you lose a ton of your chaff units anyway, but the enemy army rapidly grinds to a complete fatigue halt, and eventually your undead chew them up. He won't even get his mages out alive, because they'll be collapsed unconscious too. |  Yes... never used it yet, but it seems also the perfect castle storming companion if you have mostly chaff undead and no serious thugs/SC with you. |  
	
		
	
	
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				December 17th, 2009, 09:46 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: MP Guide to LA Ermor - The Ashen Empire 
 The only tricky part of RM is making sure your own casters are all undead or have really, really nice reinvig. Beyond that it's really effective with the typical undead battle of attrition spells - skellyspam, darkness, wailing winds etc. |  
	
		
	
	
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				December 17th, 2009, 11:14 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: MP Guide to LA Ermor - The Ashen Empire 
 All that won't save you from solar brilliance, right? |  
	
		
	
	
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				December 17th, 2009, 11:58 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: MP Guide to LA Ermor - The Ashen Empire 
 No, but rain of stones, bone grinding etc on turn 1 probably will. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Well I don't actually know how skellyspam from high reinvig commanders with RM up would work against solar brilliance. It seems like it might still work ok since the spam doesn't care if the caster is blind and the skeletons might not die quick enough to the solar brilliance to avoid the attrition caused to the other side - certainly they'll have to spend a long time out in the sun, so I guess a lot of them would be struck blind. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: MP Guide to LA Ermor - The Ashen Empire 
 That makes sense Sombre, though I lack personal experience to verify that. 
 It seems as though rigor mortis + skelli spam is indeed a tough shell to crack unless you design specifically a counter from what you have available.
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 Well I think solar brilliance is mostly just anoyance as yer undead armies will mostly have 10+ mr after blessing thus casualties will be acceptable from it. Ye must think as russian in ww2 general regarding yer undead thousands... thousands there thousands here we got thousands to spare they don't    
I would be much more scared if enemy spammed those fire/ice mass army kill spells. In my last game I seemed to lose tons of troops with ma ermor to that frost version... armies were mostly undead.
 
What la ermor must be most afraid is multiple front wars... they will kill him no matter what but those who fight ermor will fall with it.
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 That's why you make sure your communion master casting Solar Brilliance is laden with penetration items; eye of the void, rune smasher, etc.  |  
	
		
	
	
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 I used Solar Brilliance in one game when fighting MA Ermor.  IIRC I took about 30% blindness casualties each battle, with MR13 army units.  It would probably have been better to use it in conjunction with a few higher-MR thugs.  If I hadn't had the chalice to cure blindness, it wouldn't have been worth it.
 As for its effectiveness, it was pretty meh.  I got the same amount of disappointment as from using the Ark.
 
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