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		Does penetration work on commanders casting item spells, ex. mind hunt? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Mind hunt is an item spell? Which item? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		cracked (or maybe black) mirror 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Cool, never actually used that. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Hmm, I have a follow-up question. 
 
Do penetration boosters help with things like the mind blast of an illlithid lord or the Enslave Mind ability of an Aboleth? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Follow up question no 2: 
 
In the description for the Black Mirror it says that only an Astral Mage can use the item for Mind Hunts,is that right? 
 
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		When you Mind Hunt, you are either casting Mind Burn or Soul Slay: whichever one of those spells your mage knows.  Your normal commanders do not know either. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I believe this item is much too expensive then: 
Simple mind hunts are only 2 astral pearls and you cant get the much needed penetration boosters with the item. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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