Forge Of the Ancients

[GrudgeBringer]

I personally have never used the Forge of the Ancients and a couple of of us where having a discussion on its use.

We discovered that out of the 3 of us...NONE of us actually had a clue on its use, exactly what it does (the description can be interpreted a number of ways)and if you outgrow its use or would it be worth a wish.

Could someone that uses this mysterious object please enlighten us....

[thejeff]

It's not an object, it's a global, so you can't wish for it. You have to cast it.

It gives you a 50% discount on all forging and all paths your mages have by one for forging.

So, yes it's worth it. In fact, the biggest problem with it is, as with some of the other endgame globals, everyone is going to try to kill you or Dispel it.

[GameExtremist]

Step 1. Have good gem supply
Step 2. Have some Thug templates.
Step 3. Cast Forge of the Ancients.
Step 4. Make Dwarven Hammers (Forge Bonus which stacks with your bonus from FotA) for your designated item forgers.
Step 5. Enjoy making magic items for a fraction of the cost.

[Lingchih]

Originally Posted by GameExtremist

Step 1. Have good gem supply
Step 2. Have some Thug templates.
Step 3. Cast Forge of the Ancients.
Step 4. Make Dwarven Hammers (Forge Bonus which stacks with your bonus from FotA) for your designated item forgers.
Step 5. Enjoy making magic items for a fraction of the cost.

Step 6. Die a quick and painful death as everyone else in the game immediately attacks you.

[Frozen Lama]

not always

[thejeff]

Actually, I'd say:
Step 3: Make dwarven Hammers
Step 4: Cast Forge

You want to make as much as you can in the first couple turns, both to prepare for the onslaught or in case it gets dispelled.
It costs 80 with no extra gems. You'll need to save more than that before it's Dispelled for it to be worth it.

[Redeyes]

The forge works great when someone else has stuff like Burden of Time, Utterdark or Astral Nexus up - people don't quite know who to gang up on first

Also: it stacks with Constructions bonus sites... Right?

[Lingchih]

Originally Posted by Frozen Lama

not always

Sure, If you have an ally, or allies, that are benefitting from the Forge (ie: you are making items cheaply for them), then it becomes viable. Casting it solo is kind of useless.

[Redeyes]

Originally Posted by Lingchih

Sure, If you have an ally, or allies, that are benefitting from the Forge (ie: you are making items cheaply for them), then it becomes viable. Casting it solo is kind of useless.

And then there's always the 999 gem casts, though then it only pays for itself in those tremendously large and long games...

[don_Pablo]

It's one of the best global if yours and one of the worst if not.
The 50% discount is cumulative with Dvarwen hammers giving 75%total.
5gem cost->1 gem
40gem cost->10 gem