MP: Land Rand - Jotunheim Wins!

[PashaDawg]

I am certainly happy with that if players are. How about a Wednesday / Sunday schedule?

[Meglobob]

Sounds good to me.

I actually think I know who will win this game anyway, don't worry I won't say who. So playing the remaining turns is probably a waste of everyones time anyway. I am not being in the least bit defeatist here by the way and will happily fight to the bitter, bitter end. Its just by this turn or earlier I have been able to predict with 100% (no joking) accuracy the eventual winner.

If enough players feel the same way, ie that they already know the winner and that future hours invested in doing there turns could be better spent doing something else more productive, we could have a vote where the remaining players PM/Email Pasha with who they think will win (in a secret honest ballot) and then perhaps call the game?

I know alot of experienced players are stubborn and refuse to admit defeat no matter what, so will understand completely if everyone wants to continue and do those fuitless, waste of time turns...

[WraithLord]

I agree with MB, though I've no problem to cont. to the bitter end.

[Zeldor]

I totally agree with Meglobob, but with current VPs I think that game will never end in reasonable time frame. I have said long time ago that it should probably be declared as draw and new RAND started, fixing problems from previous ones.

[Lingchih]

There was already a draw in the last Rand game. You guys should fight it out, or Rand will become a joke.

[Meglobob]

Originally Posted by Lingchih

There was already a draw in the last Rand game. You guys should fight it out, or Rand will become a joke.

We are not talking about a draw here.

There will definately be a winner, indeed I think I am 100% certain which nation it will be and its only a question of time. But because of the way Dominions late game works, it will take till turn 80 - 100+ for that nation to get the VPs to make it official. Thats 40 - 80 hrs of doing his turns for that nation to play it out and 100's+ hrs for all the other nations to play there turns. All that time for the same result if it was called now.

Lets have a secret, honest vote by pm'ing Pasha. Obviously, if a nation who is in 2nd, 3rd or 4th place has perhaps a, 'masterplan' like been saving all there astral gems to cast arcane nexus and then kick everyones butts, then continue. On the other hand if the vote went pretty much the way of one nation call it. We have a neutral host with Pasha, seems a bit stupid not to take advantage of it to save ourselves considerable amounts of time.

[Zeldor]

Sure, you are right, but I really don't think he can get enough VPs before turn 100-120. It requires attacking other tough players with their VPs being almost unconquerable. I'm against declaring winner now just like that, I don't think it's deserved.

[PashaDawg]

I am happy with whatever, of course.

[Zeldor]

Of course if someone wants to surrender to me, I won't object.

[PashaDawg]

Hello:

Turn 63 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Thanks.

Pasha