T-72b Rogatka

[Wdll]

I was wondering if the extended view range of 50 is deliberate or not. I know is is in the OOB for some time now. Just..why 50?

[DRG]

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Don

[Wdll]

AHA! ok thanks

[Wdll]

Out of curiosity, is the Khrisantema-S atgm vehicle, view of 60, also an error?

[DRG]

I'll look into it at some point

[Wdll]

Thank you very much.

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by Wdll

Out of curiosity, is the Khrisantema-S atgm vehicle, view of 60, also an error?

It uses a millimetric wave radar for target detection and missile guidance (the latter with a laser backup against jamming). I would guess that 50 or 60 would be about in line with game convention for GSR systems.

Last I heard about it Rogatka may have been axed. Neverthless the 80's vintage T-72Bs are still being upgraded ona routine basis, with the light ERA being replaced by Kontakt-5 and other improvements, though not as extensive as the Rogatka program.

[Wdll]

So you think it is normal for the Khrisantema-S (not the missile, the system with it being land vehicle and very short at that) to have the same and better view than most modern Gunships?

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by Wdll

So you think it is normal for the Khrisantema-S (not the missile, the system with it being land vehicle and very short at that) to have the same and better view than most modern Gunships?

An helicopter is going to have a greater theoretical visual horizon and ability to see over obstacles than a ground vehicle, of course.
But that, in a way, is already factored in the game independently from the night vision rating: with a high visibility setting a high flying helicopter is going to see much further than a ground vehicle on most maps.
But under adverse visual conditions the system characteristics must be taken in consideration; given it is a radar we are talking about antenna, wavelenght, power available etc
A radar system capable of detecting a tank at 3km (60 game hexes) will be able to exploit its 3km maximum range far more frequently mounted on an helicopter. It isn't however going to detect a tank at 30km even if the theoretical radar/visual horizon is there thanks to the helicopter height.
And, on the other hand on some relatively rare but not impossible terrains (some Iran-Iraq battlefields come to mind) the same ground mounted radar system might be placed to exploit its full 3km range.
Keep in mind that the theoretical radar horizon of a two meters tall object looking at an other two meters tall object (both placed on the surface) is in excess of eleven kilometers.
This of course a theoretical discussion, in practice we don't know how these systems stack up to each other.

[Wdll]

I haven't seen anything that suggests the Krisantema to be able to "see" that far away when other vehicles can't. I can understand having increased fire control, but not viewing range.

As for the helicopters in the game, let's not forget that certain helicopters, certain scouts and the apache with the longbow, can't do the search while behind a hill or other object as they could in reality. But that is another matter.