Countdown - Page 23

Verjigorm · #**221** May 21st, 2010, 02:16 PM

I would say that in my opinion, the restriction of "No fortifying Victory Points" is unconditional, which means you should have to destroy the castle. That's my opinion. The idea that you could fortify a victory point makes it more difficult for others to acquire it, and such is the basic purpose of the restriction, so it should not matter whether or not you are receiving VPs for the point.

The restriction is simple and clear. Unconditionally, no fortifying victory point provinces. Thus the fortress should be destroyed, unconditionally and no payment even of VPs should prevent said destruction.

That's just my opinion.

chrispedersen · #**222** May 21st, 2010, 11:53 PM

The rules are that forts must be destroyed.
And yes, your vps will go negative if you do not.

Verjigorm · #**223** May 22nd, 2010, 01:23 AM

I would like to point out that the VP's haven't been updated for several turns and should look like this:

Turn 31.....Ver..... (1)
Turn 32.....Ver..Ver (3)
Turn 33.....Ver..Ver..Ver (6)
Turn 34.....Ver..Ver..Ver (9)
Turn 35.....Ver..Ver..Ver (12)
Turn 36.....Ver..Ver..Ver (15)
Turn 37.....Ver..Ver..Ver (18)
Turn 38.....Ver..Ver..Ver (21)
Turn 39.....Ver..Ver..Ver (24)
Turn 40.....Ver..Ver..Ver (27)

chrispedersen · #**224** May 22nd, 2010, 11:24 AM

I should like to point out that I indicated more than several times now that vp's have to be reported EVERY TURN, and I've said this several times.

Ver, I'm not a player I have no way to view the map. Additionally, the self reporting is so that EVERYONE has the ability to know where they are in the game, and how close to winning everyone is.

So, if no one objects, I will update the VP's as you suggest. However, this will be the last time. vps have to be claimed everyturn.

Also, twobits, by my reading of things, six turns will be over on turn 44. Two, or anyone, let me know if its otherwise.

Verjigorm · #**225** May 22nd, 2010, 10:52 PM

I must have misunderstood this instruction:

Quote:

Please only report provinces when you've actually taken them.. I don't want any surprises complicating my posting. That said did you take your 3 vp this turn?

I took it to mean that you only wanted me to report the capture of a VP province, not that I should post an update to which I control every turn. For the remainder of the game, then, I shall post the number of VPs I control every turn which should create a good deal of thread clutter, which is what I had thought you were trying to avoid via this instruction.

Therefore, as the error was based on a misunderstanding of your prior instruction, there should be no reason that I should not get my VPs.

You have not said you need to report VPs every turn multiple times to my knowledge. I only found one such post in the thread and it occurred before the instruction to report only when captured. Thus, your instructions are confusing, and not my fault.

Verjigorm · #**226** May 23rd, 2010, 11:00 AM

Claiming 3 VPs again:

81 101 105 [[+3 VP Turn 41]]

Total: 30 points

...and as for the dispute regarding my VPs, since this is a friendly game, there's no reason we can't count it both ways, and for that matter, the game could be converted into an FFA after the requisite points are achieved, anyway, since there's no software win condition other than capture all VP points/FFA.

I vehemently maintain my position that my VPs should number 30 on turn 41.

Hoplosternum · #**227** May 23rd, 2010, 05:43 PM

I don't think anyone is disputing that Verjigorm. CP said that if there were no objections he had no problem with it. And i don't for the record.

But the rules have been stated and you (and Maverni) have to declare which vps you are claiming each turn. At least from now on. TwoBits should also start posting his vps if he wants them.

CP is in charge of the game and while we can all have a view on whether this form of victory is good or bad it is what it is for this game. The much of the purpose appears to be to stop anyone sneaking up on victory. It is going to be obvious and as/if you approach victory you can expect the rest of us will know and to react if we can. Is this a good mechanic? Well that's a different discussion as it IS the mechanic for this game

And if nothing else it will keep the thread on the first page

Verjigorm · #**228** May 25th, 2010, 08:09 AM

Claiming 3 VPs again:

81 101 105 [[+3 VP Turn 42]]

Total: 33 points

Verjigorm · #**229** May 25th, 2010, 08:24 PM

Claiming 3 VPs again:

81 101 105 [[+3 VP Turn 43]]

Total: 36 points

Verjigorm · #**230** May 26th, 2010, 07:43 PM

Claiming 3 VPs again:

81 101 105 [[+3 VP Turn 44]]

Total: 39 points
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