MRAPs

[Suhiir]

I wasn't clear when I said "create new units".

What I ment was, as you said, the USMC does tends to in fact create something like an "MRAP Company" and dole then out as needed.
Whereas the US Army tends to incorporate stuff into the existing MTOE thus essentially creating a new MTOE, thus "unit" type.

I'd heard about the fanciful notion to replace the all armored HMMWVs with MRAPs, and knew it'd been essentially stillborn.
What exactly do you have on M-ATV deployment, numbers, and incorporation, in the USMC?

[thatguy96]

The total DoD buy as of November 2009 was ~6,500 vehicles. By January 2010, it was 6,619. A news story in March 2010 suggested the Army's portion of that was ~6,000 vehicles by itself. That's the latest info I have. I have not seen anything clear about their distribution, but I assume that they are likely being subbed in for UAHs as appropriate. This is all on Globalsecurity.org's page on the M-ATV.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

The M-ATV numbers are close, army-guide.com off their contract page has the count at 6556 units that have been paid for to date.
defpro.com reports that about 470 more units will be delivered to SOCOM in Oct. - Nov. 2010 with the CROWS II system mounted. I think one of my first posts on the M-ATV gave a breakdown on who's getting what and how many. SOCOM M-ATV article:
http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/586/
Will have news on the MRAP world when I get back from my wife's
big ..th (After all I am a gentleman now.) birthday party in beautiful Savannah, GA. until then to all of you enjoy your weekends!!!
Regards,
Pat

[thatguy96]

In that post you suggested that out of a 6,500 vehicle total, the USMC was to get 1,100, the USAF and Navy 100, and the Army would get the balance. Army News reported in March 2010 that it expected the service to receive 6,000 vehicles.

I need to update the specific page on Globalsecurity.org because we also have this announcement from Oshkosh from February suggesting a total buy of 8,079 vehicles by that point (up a little less than 1,500 from the January total). This would easily allow for a USMC buy of 1,100 or more vehicles, depending on the requirements for the USAF and Navy (and those 450 vehicles for SOCOM, but I don't know if that's on this contract or not).

The contract limit I believe was 10,000 vehicles, so it could easily get up to that.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Well the numbers will be in flux, I first reported on the M-ATV in the end of Sept. 2009, alot has happened since then. Also for future reference army-guide.com only reports on the contracts as they are signed and approved for further procurement of existing programs and as new ones come on line i.e. ARCHER SPA.
Alright here we go!
1. OCELOT of the British MOD MPPV program has been selected by the Australian MOD as the final entry into their LAND 121 program it will compete against the HAWKEI and EAGLE IV. SPV 400 not chosen to participate. Does this give the OCELOT the inside track in the UK MOD MPPV program? On the surface of it simply, no! This article quickly and nicely ties in all three vehicles into the LAND 121 program.
http://www.defense-update.com/newsca..._26052010.html

2. UK MOD tenders for SUPRACAT SPV 400 as it moves on in the MPPV program.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/15805/

New Vehicles:

1. GILA/Nigeria&UNAMID/2007&2009 Respectively/C2 P9-10/
TM 12.7mm or 20mm & RM 7.62mm or DB 40mm GL RDs for all UKN/WinSPMBT Status: Not in (Or any see below.).
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3338.html,
http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ma/press1.html,
http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ehicles/ivema/ and http://www.military-today.com/apc/ivema_gila.htm
This is NOT the CASSPIR and not made by the same company, though using it as a benchmark, in a manner of speaking it is one on "steroids". UNAMID units purchased by Canada for Darfur Ops. A couple of these sources (And others.) indicate up to seven African countries operate these from some "snippets" I came across I would say South Africa , Senegal, Angola and Kenya. And I'm still short one. Senegal and Angola I believe are using ones supplied by UNAMID for Darfur. Any help here would be good with good sources for Don as my mission is to get improved and new units into the game.
Pics:


2. MADADOR/South Africa, Azerbaijan & Jordon (2011)/2010/
C2 P12/TM 12.7mm Rds UKN/
WinSPMBT Status: Not in.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/matador_mrap.htm,
http://www.armyrecognition.com/jorda...igence_uk.html, http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4039.html and http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ramount-group/ Note info in last on MARUADER the urban combat version. Boosts best protection in it's class. Note para 4 from first source.
Pics:

Good Night!
Regards,
Pat

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Well the numbers will be in flux, I first reported on the M-ATV in the end of Sept. 2009, alot has happened since then. Also for future reference army-guide.com only reports on the contracts as they are signed and approved for further procurement of existing programs and as new ones come on line i.e. ARCHER SPA.
Alright here we go!
1. OCELOT of the British MOD MPPV program has been selected by the Australian MOD as the final entry into their LAND 121 program it will compete against the HAWKEI and EAGLE IV. SPV 400 not chosen to participate. Does this give the OCELOT the inside track in the UK MOD MPPV program? On the surface of it simply, no! This article quickly and nicely ties in all three vehicles into the LAND 121 program.
http://www.defense-update.com/newsca..._26052010.html

2. UK MOD tenders for SUPRACAT SPV 400 as it moves on in the MPPV program.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/15805/

New Vehicles:

1. GILA/Nigeria&UNAMID/2007&2009 Respectively/C2 P9-10/
TM 12.7mm or 20mm & RM 7.62mm or DB 40mm GL RDs for all UKN/WinSPMBT Status: Not in (For any see below.).
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3338.html,
http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ma/press1.html,
http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ehicles/ivema/ and http://www.military-today.com/apc/ivema_gila.htm
This is NOT the CASSPIR and not made by the same company, though using it as a benchmark, in a manner of speaking it is one on "steroids". UNAMID units purchased by Canada for Darfur Ops. A couple of these sources (And others.) indicate up to seven African countries operate these from some "snippets" I came across I would say South Africa , Senegal, Angola and Kenya. And I'm still short one. Senegal and Angola I believe are using ones supplied by UNAMID for Darfur. Any help here would be good with good sources for Don as my mission is to get improved and new units into the game.
Pics:
Attachment 10195 Attachment 10194

2. MADADOR/South Africa, Azerbaijan & Jordon (2011)/2010/
C2 P12/TM 12.7mm Rds UKN/
WinSPMBT Status: Not in.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/matador_mrap.htm,
http://www.armyrecognition.com/jorda...igence_uk.html, http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4039.html and http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ramount-group/ Note info in last on MARUADER the urban combat version. Boasts best protection in it's class. Note para 4 from first source.
Pics:
Attachment 10196 Attachment 10197
Good Night!
Regards,
Pat

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

I will address a couple of specifics later, but this is a "cheat" article as also posted on the APC and MBT threads.
http://www.army-technology.com/features/feature90405/

Regards,
Pat

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

SUPACAT is pushing the SPV-400 hard in it's competion against the OCELOT in the British MOD LPPV program.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/17143/
Pic:


Romania gets donated MRAPS.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/17157/

Regards,
Pat

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

US MRAP testing inadequate? You decide.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/18011/

BUSHMASTER makes Canada's short list in their TAPV Program.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/18015/

41 blast tests and the OCELOT is still going strong in the UK MOD's aggressive test program, probably the best blast test program out there after public and government concerns over casualties suffered due to IED's over the last few years.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/17924/

And finally as promised the RG-41 on display and unveiled at EUROSATORY 2010. Might come in handy for the morning commute. I think we'll see more of this within the next year.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/south...ations_uk.html

Pic:
Attachment 10424

Regards,
Pat

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Good to see a story of some of the equipment we discuss save lives in the real world.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/18093/
Obviously the upgrades to the MASTIFF during the last year as earlier reported have most certainly paid off.

Regards,
Pat