MP: STACKERS, newbie game, (started)

[Nauquan]

Bugger this.

I knock off his pretender, after chasing him around for 5 turns.
No squad of teleporters, magic dueling could have helped.

His interception army may of may not have hit my squad of thirteen mermen raiding his backyard - not a big deal since he hasn't moved towards me for the last three turns. This turn was no more critical than the last one.

Now he knows my plans, and to top it off he implies that I sabotaged him.

If anyone sabotaged him, I strongly condem the action. Doing a roll-back seems to be the only remedy. However, a roll-back also gives R'leyh an advantage since he has already seen what I intend to do, and the specific capabilities of the units that I have.

So Blackguard what do you suggest to make this equitable?

[Nauquan]

Furthermore, I find the tone of your messages insulting. I have forgone responding to your continual Ashdod bashing, and personal insults towards myself and other players. I have treated you politely and have not provoked, insulted, or mistreated you in any way. If we continue this game, I would appreciate it if you would treat all players and Gandolf with more courtesy.

[Nauquan]

Man I am still angry. Can you tell?

Consider the blunt nature of the sabotage. If I did have access to your turns, I would simply mine them for information, and maximize the actions of my units.

I am insulted that you think that I am so unsubtle as to commit such obvious sabotage.

[13lackGu4rd]

Nauquan, I didn't point my finger specifically at you, all I said was that you had the most to gain from this sabotage act, which is true. with that said, I also mentioned Amadamus(for hating me after the BoT) and people who haven't said anything for a long time, as well as anybody else. I don't really know anybody who plays here, so I can't say who is or isn't capable of such an unsubtle action, as you put it, so I can't rule out anybody either...

as for solutions, as far as I'm concerned there is *no* solution, at least as long as we don't know who sabotaged(and well, probably spied) my turn(s) and how we can stop it from happening again. I doubt we can do that, so the game is pretty much over for me... what you guys do from here is entirely up to you...

[Nauquan]

When you say "I don't want to point any fingers" and then go on to mention some specific players, that is pointing fingers.

In the same vein if someone say's "No offense but ...." and then says something offensive, it is still offensive.

[13lackGu4rd]

no, it's call stating obvious facts, and you can't deny that you had the most to gain from the situation... don't blame me from being hurt by the truth, it's not my fault, nor is it yours. it is your fault when you see it as finger pointing instead of what it actually is, simply stating the obvious(facts). same usually goes for "no offense but..." it's a matter of how the other person takes what you're saying and your tone(as much as you can reflect tone via writing).

moreover, since you seem to want to take this more personally than it should, and trying to discredit me and being so shocked that I mentioned such a simple fact, only raises the suspicions against you. it's called: acting suspiciously. now, this is not to say I accuse you of anything, again I'm simply stating obvious facts.

now, take this any way you wish, I've said what I had to say and tried to explain it the best I can. how you(or others for that matter) wish to take my words is totally out of my control...

[Nauquan]

I can understand why you feel that the game is over for you, because another player can sabotage or merely peek at your future turns.

I fear that the game will be over for everyone. Since the capability of hacking a turn exists, anyone can be hacked. And since it is known that it can be done, then more people will figure out how to do it. Not just for this game, but for any of the Dominions MP games.

Very sad.

[Gandalf Parker]

I wont comment on THIS particular event.
But as an internet admin, and a netcop, I will point out that the weakest link in just about ANYTHING on the net is the strength of passwords.

[Greyjoy]

****ty situation, this.

I'd be willing to accept a rollback, though as you say, it doesn't really solve the central problem. (Only Blackguard can really theorize on his own personal password strength and whether that's liable to have been a problem.)

Edit: reread Gandalf's posts. Durr, it might actually solve the central problem, if he sets it so only Blackguard can play Blackguard's turns.

[Nauquan]

I will continue to play if there is a rollback. I reserve the right to whine more than Blackguard henceforth.