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September 22nd, 2010, 02:20 AM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
Everything you ever wanted to know about MRAPs but were afraid to ask. A very good over view that covers the major players in the MRAP field and developmental history.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...0532/#more-532
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M-ATV success story for OSH-KOSH but what about the competion?
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...602/#more-5602
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September 22nd, 2010, 03:21 AM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
This was meant to go with the last post sorry for any incompet...
I meant of course inconvenience.
God I need some rack time, good night all!
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September 22nd, 2010, 01:16 PM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
Nice to see that unlike most military equipment the Cougar actually lives up to the manufacturers claims
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September 24th, 2010, 02:30 AM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
Well it's done, British MOD has made me 1 for 1 in predicting equipment. Chose wrong on the final FRES-SV platform but picked right on the LPPV program vehicle, OCELOT has been chosen over Supacat's SPV-400. See earlier posts on this thread.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_1931.html
and http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_1933.html
This will mean "good-bye" for the Land Rover, I think as important to the UK as the JEEP was for us.
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September 24th, 2010, 08:21 AM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
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Not a land rover replacement - a replacement for the snatch land rover. land rover will still remain as a utility vehicle. (TUL is I think the current acronym - Truck Utility Light(?)).
Snatch was OK for its designed role (Internal security, proof against SAA ammo and petrol bombs, improvised pipe bombs etc), inside Northern Ireland. But outside of an all-tarmac road environment, it was too overloaded to deal with cross country movement - so was restricted to tracks and therefore to any IEDS placed alongside same.
Snatch should be 2WD - it is currently listed as 4WD in the OOB.
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September 24th, 2010, 11:37 AM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
You are correct, I pulled the trigger a little too fast on that statement.
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October 2nd, 2010, 01:33 AM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
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The crew does transfer to the new tank when you upgrade. But, they lose some of their experience and morale in the process. How much is variable, but the loss isn't usually so much that they become less skilled then a brand new crew would be. Think of it this way...the crew was use to their old vehicle and knew where everything was and how it worked. Now they have a new vehicle but are still use to the old one, so while they may be very skilled they will not operate as effectively with the new vehicle as they did with the old one until they get use to it.
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Even in peacetime I can attest to this. When our unit transitioned to M1 MBT's, basically, we sucked on our first gunnery after transition training. It didn't help that the qualification tables were jiggered with at the same time. A year later, when we knew what the heck we were doing it was a totally different story. Most of the units that I had knowledge of during that period had the same problem. So yeah, dropping off your M47 for an M48, or your T55 for a T62, is going to come at the cost of some level of effectiveness for some period of time.
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January 6th, 2011, 04:01 AM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
USMC spends a billion dollars on new and upgrades to existing MRAP vehicles see related articles as well.
http://defense-update.com/wp/2010121..._variants.html
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January 17th, 2011, 03:14 PM
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Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
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USMC spends a billion dollars on new and upgrades to existing MRAP vehicles see related articles as well.
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Since the EFV looks like it may be dead and neither the AAVP or "armored" HMMWV really cuts the mustard as an APC (stress on the "armored" part) its nice to see the budget being used for something fairly worthwhile.
Now...if they only came in an amphibious variant...
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