APC Development and related topics.

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Found more stuff.

1. Poland to field a fully amphibious APC because of the weather of the last few years, yes it said the weather, which rain is and it causes flooding. And it just makes good sense.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...68&c=FEA&s=SPE

2. LAV-3 in for the long haul in Canada.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...66&c=FEA&s=SPE

3. How Heavy for the USA in the future? Here are some answers and questions.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...71&c=FEA&s=SPE

4. Fix those power plants or the Germans will.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...65&c=FEA&s=SPE

5. More on the Danish issue.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...70&c=FEA&s=SPE

Regards,
Pat

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Here's the data from the first Patch Post for 2011/2012 for review. Also related news to include one from my first PP from 2yrs. ago and two off the 2010/2011 campaign. So...

APC Development and...
Was going to post about the German BOXER but as the fielded date falls within just less then six months as agreed to a couple of years ago with Don I won't. See Pg. 11 Post #104 for further details. Also still going to hold off on the ARMA 6x6 however I found a source that says Bahrain has bought them for their Army NG Here is the ref for ARMA and they are the first to report it on these types of sites that I can find. This will be transferred to this thread later as always for all PP segments...
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56
This will be brief:

R1. THAILAND/BTR-3E1 IFV/REMINDER/ADD per Posts #105 (Data in normal PP Unit Format.) - #107. /The additional 126 units were ordered but it always helps when the exporter (Ukraine) throws in free units to "sweeten the pot", I'd just settle for some free gas myself!?!
http://www.army-technology.com/news/news121016.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/june_..._vehicles.html
http://articles.janes.com/articles/J...m-Ukraine.html

A1. ADD/KUWAIT/DESERT CHAMLEON/JAN 2011/C3 P7/RMTS Bushmaster 30mm Rds UKN as Primary Weapon and 12.7mm Rds UKN versions./This is a very versatile turret that is field changeable to carry a range of weapons from a 5.62mm to a 40mm cannon. The USMC is looking at the vehicle but more the turret as a possible upgrade to the AAV-7A1 as the EFV is now dead. The turret is U.S. made.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/us_ar...mation_uk.html
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Sec...0771295027994/
http://www.janes.com/products/janes/...1&rd=janes_com
http://www.defenseprocurementnews.co...nnel-carriers/
Posts #93 & #94.
Pics:

D1. POLAND/BWP-2000/UNIT 442/DELETE/The BWP-2000 program was developed in the early 90's and cancelled by the end of the 90's by Poland. Only two prototypes were built. This program would eventually lead Poland to develop the ANDERS IFV which however suffered the same fate as the BWP-2000 and it was cancelled in 2010. What killed ANDERS was the economy and the fact that Poland was already contracted therefore committed to the ROSOMAK 8x8 of which 800 were ordered. No further development is underway for the BWP-2000. The ANDERS IFV and Light Tank versions are being marketed for foreign sales at this time. ROSOMAK is fielded and still under delivery status until I believe 2013.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1015.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/polan...rmation_d.html
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=25654
Post #1 last unit before "NEW UNITS".
http://aus.krakow.pl/army/polish-com...ly-of-vehicles
See lead in Para on ANDERS Light Tank status and note last sentence in the first full Para below for BWP-2000. Note the word "demonstrator" is used to describe both pieces of equipment. Also see THREAD "Polish Anders AFV" currently on Pg. 1of thread Posts #5 - #12 to include the first few sentences of Post #13 with focus on the refs.

D2. USMC/EFV/UNIT 189/DELETE/Though I brought up the "UNKNOWN" issue as to what it meant, I just can't ignore the reality of the situation at this point given the refs already presented in the last past PP #2 I think, but also since and as presented below. We'll not only need the slot for the likely "improved" AAV-7A1 but also for its eventual replacement. Here's another example for some (present company excluded) about putting in future systems some have asked about, the work involved in putting the unit "together", at some point changing the status in this case twice if deleted, and making room for the replacements. I believe this is what happened with the above D1 unit as well.
http://www.defense.gov/releases/rele...eleaseid=14179 The Commandant.
http://www.defense.gov/speeches/spee...?speechid=1540 Para 2 & 3 starting w/Secretary Gates...
http://comptroller.defense.gov/defbu...ation_Book.pdf
Pg. 10.
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=63557
Para 7.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news...hicles-022111/
http://www.marines.mil/community/Doc...-11/index.html
First two articles are both worth a look, though second is on topic.

News...
1. Malaysia to purchase ANOA from Indonesia.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/news127525.html

2. Thailands BTR-3E1 on track. I believe one or both also updates the deal for Thailand to get the OPLOT tank as well from Ukrainians, the contracts were signed last week.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/augus...e_0708111.html
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...asia&Itemid=56

3. Brazil's VBTP also on track.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...-Brazil-06048/
http://www.army-technology.com/news/news129364.html
http://www.elbitsystems.com/elbitmai...num=55&num2=55
Pic:


4. USA still to get GCV, for now, but seems safe. The JTAV Program is now probaly dead based on budget sources recently reviewed by self.
http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/866/
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/27112/

5. The CORPS MPC Program on track.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2255.html

6. Same for Canada with the CCV Program.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2268.html
http://www.army-technology.com/news/news128597.html

7. BAE RG-41 has a good showing @ DSEi.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/27738/

8. Don if you're looking in, is this next worth the effort? BMOD up armoring their CVR(T) current fleet.
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...Operations.htm

And finally for GySgt. "Getsum" Charles V. and the help he gave me on the LAV-AD for the 5.5 Patch Post. And Don for getting it fixed-thanks!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM82Vuq3PdM

Regards,
Pat

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LAV-A2 standard

Improvements include increased internal and externl armor upgrade package (additional survivability vs IED's, protection from 14.5 mm armor-piercing rounds, and include an anti-spall lining on the inside), automatic fire suppression equipment, and upgrading the vehicle's suspension to the Generation II standard to support the added weight of the new armor, replacing the turret hydraulics with an electric drive system, and replacing the thermal sight with the AN/PAS-13 Improved Thermal Sight System (provides the gunner and commander with thermal images, an eye-safe laser range finder, a fire-control solution and far-target location target grid information).

The LAV's command and control (LAV-C2) version will receive upgrades to improve its ability to operate on the move, including digital command, control, communications, computer and intelligence systems, voice command and control nets, and satellite communications.

http://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_lav.php


Available 8/2010 or a bit earlier

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/arti...-8-28-2011.asp

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Well under the economic circumstances most militarises are having to operate under (Except for countries like Brazil, India, China and Russia that are seeing huge increases in defence spending compared to GDP.) immense pressure to do more with less, more with older systems (Recapitalization/RESET.) and rethinking of ongoing and future products. The following cover the above.

1. UK WARRIOR Program moves on as the upgrade to the CT 40mm is funded. The picture shows the WARRIOR with the CT 40mm mounted and with the armor upgrades already done as well. It should be noted that the armor upgrade as shown is all ready being used by the WARRIOR's in theatre in Afghanistan.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/novem...n_0411111.html

2. The USA is putting the pressure on the competitors in the GCV Program to get it right and within the program costs as it gets ready to look at existing improved programs from outside the U.S. as alternatives spending $47 million dollars to research it. Again the pictures show the new and upgraded versions of the two leading alternatives choices.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/novem...m_0511111.html

I don't know if the WARRIOR needs an armor upgrade for the game currently or not I just haven't had the chance to check.

Regards,
Pat

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

I don't know if the WARRIOR needs an armor upgrade for the game currently or not I just haven't had the chance to check.

Regards,
Pat

Already covered as is the 40mm version I just need to upgrade the turret Icon and the photo

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For those of us trying to maintain equipment status, the job is about to get tougher, keeping track of the "fire sale" on all armor type units and where they're going. Here's the latest reported financial victim selling armor to balance their budget.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rope&Itemid=57

2. Austria doing the the same, the SAURERS will phased out in 2014.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rope&Itemid=57

3. Columbia is looking for an 8x8 APC, could they become the first export customer for Sinapores TERREX? We should have a better picture of this by the fall.
http://www.dmilt.com/index.php?optio...rica&Itemid=58

Regards,
Pat

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Wulfir and Don I guess I can remove this from my list now based on the main page thread, Hilarious and environmentally...
BMP-1. As I see you entered Wulfirs items to your list here's what I have concerning BAE BvS10 Viking MKIIB for Sweden.
Recommend UK UNIT 703 VIKING TCV+ for modeling purposes with armor increase to a min. of 2 all around and IED increase as well but less then UK UNIT 705 WARTHOG TCV+, the WARTHOG still has a higher armor value. Also swim and vision should be equal to the WARTHOG as these were some of the improvements made for the VIKING MK II versions as well. I would recommend keeping the "MK II" in the name. For both UK UNIT 705 (Definitely.) and Swedish version unless Wulfir has other information to the contrary, further recommend the protection systems as on UK UNIT 703 be added as well.
For Sweden only the buy is for 40 units, delivery of first to be recieved on Oct 2012 order complete in Nov. 2013. Based on delivery and "normal" training times recommend fielding date of June 2013, was tempted to use Apr. however wanted two months "fluff" for building, delivery delays and any legal challenges the Swedes have demonstrated a penchant for after the PATRIA AMV issues I bought up in this and the Patch Post thread from last year or year before. I will be adding this for two other countries besides the UK later once weapons and some other issues are verified.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/...iking-from-bae
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/31361/
It should be noted that the UK took final delivery of 24 MK II versions in April of last year, recieving the first units around April of 2009. They were replaced by the better protected and capable WARTHOGS, can't remember if the MK II's are still in service with the UK or sold off. Ref supplied for general info and reevaluation as needed. Also info in this and the PP threads.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/unite..._pictures.html

Hope this helps.

Almost 4am here need to hit the rack, my work week isn't over yet. Have a great weekend everyone!

Regards,
Pat

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I've put this in the Jets...& Green White papers threads as well. JTLV program to get proirity as HUMMVEE recaptialzation program is to be scrapped.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...preview-07285/

Regards,
Pat

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CTV/M-ATV/JLTV

The Army requirements for the JLTV to have the same level of under body protection as the Mine-Resistant, Ambush-Protected All-Terrain Vehicle (M-ATV) resulted in this variant being eliminated because it proved to be too heavy to be transportable by Army CH-47F and Marine Corps CH-53K helicopters.

There will be two JLTV variants
Combat Tactical Vehicle (CTV) that can transport four passengers and carry 3,500 pounds
Combat Support Vehicle (CSV) that can transport two passengers and carry 5,100 pounds

As to dates (and I get annoyed by future systems as much as you do Don), best guess is 2015-2020.

Defense Aerospace
Defense Daily
Global Security

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Yeah, call back in three years and I'll jump right on it.........