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March 23rd, 2012, 09:59 PM
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Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
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shard, be nicer to matty. your advice is excellent, but your presentation is a bit brusque.
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Oh, sorry about that. English is not my native language, you see.
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Not sure where the 200% taxing is taking place.
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It`s never too late to start overtaxing.
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March 23rd, 2012, 10:11 PM
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Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
LOL...so true. Cheers and a Beer to you Shard. All is good. Same to you LL. End of the day this is a game and we are all having fun.
Cheers All.
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March 23rd, 2012, 10:16 PM
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Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
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Originally Posted by mattyburn7
Now that I've digested dinner. I have time to explain a bit more. Apparently either LL's spies didn't tell him the whole story or like a good politician he likes to leave important bits out when telling his story to the board.
As you all know there is a big bad dragon called a Zmey. He's a CONJ6 spell and requires an F4 mage.
There is also a much lesser Zmey that is a Bogarus national summons. He is significantly less powerful than his cousin. He only requires an F2 mage and a lower level on the CONJ scale to achieve.
I have the lesser guy. I can 100% guarantee you that others in this game will get the stronger Zmey LONG before I do as I am nowhere close to producing an F4 mage and I would be at CONJ6 for quite awhile.
And to save LL the trouble when (And IF) the time finally comes that I get the real ZMEY. I'll happily post it on the board so y'all can get the accurate information.
Cheers!
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Come now, you have more than enough research to get there in no time, considering you've already hit several other major research goals in the interim easily enough (for your benefit, I won't disclose any).
And in any event, F4 is easily obtainable for Bogarus, with a RoW and a Starets with Death (Skull of Fire). And this is all assuming you don't get a F3 Starets, too, in which case a Skull of Fire will do (tnen you forge some flaming helmets for an F2 Starets for them to start summoning).
If it really is just one of your nat. summons, you're already at Conj 5, which puts you one research level from actual Zmeys. And given you've been uninterrupted with war, and you're overpatrolling all your provinces at 200% with Smigarls (as Shardphoenix said: if you weren't, then the Smigarls are wasted patrolling them all besides some minor spy hunting). Just 10 of them is enough to allow you to pump out 200% tax rates anyways, so I'd be shocked if you weren't.
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Yes, all please note that LL has recently conquered all (including humble ole me) in another game. Thus we owe it to ourselves to make sure he doesn't make it 2 from 2.
Gang up on him now, before its too late!
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I did?
Oh wait, you mean...
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LOL...so true. Cheers and a Beer to you Shard. All is good. Same to you LL. End of the day this is a game and we are all having fun.
Cheers All.
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Of course. You're just probably going to win it since we were all preoccupied with other matters to prevent Bogarus from scaling ridiculously into the late game peacefully.
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March 23rd, 2012, 10:43 PM
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Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
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F4 is easily obtainable for Bogarus, with a RoW and a Starets with Death
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Well, Ring o Wizardry is a big deal in itself. With national mages you need astral cap, crystal coin and Ring of Sorcery. That`s around 60 pearls, IIRC. And then you need 60 more for RoW itself. Possible, but definitely not easy
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March 23rd, 2012, 10:46 PM
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Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
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F4 is easily obtainable for Bogarus, with a RoW and a Starets with Death
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Well, Ring o Wizardry is a big deal in itself. With national mages you need astral cap, crystal coin and Ring of Sorcery. That`s around 60 pearls, IIRC. And then you need 60 more for RoW itself. Possible, but definitely not easy
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Fair enough.
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March 24th, 2012, 06:50 AM
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Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
Exactly...Of course when LL said it was easy. I thought he was implying he was going to give me a gift of 100 Astral Pearls
If he's not, there goes my plan of creating an army of the nasty Zmey's...ah well. Have to try plan B.
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March 24th, 2012, 01:14 PM
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Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
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Originally Posted by parone
it concerns me that i have no idea what you guys are talking about. that probably does not bode well for my future...
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This is a Zmey (note that this is from a SP Bogarus game of mine which I use to basically summon anything I want to determine their stats etc.)
Given the scales/Globals I have, I'll point out it has 80 HP base, 18 base MR, 18 base morale, and 1 base encumberance. The Fire Breath attack it has is AoE3, and it has 6 total attacks via 3 bites, 2 claws, and a tail. You reach it at Conj-6, with a F4 mage. Also, Fear +5. It's generally a major research goal for those nations who can reliably summon them, just because it's base kit makes them especially good in raiding and clearing/routing large armies without magical support (even with magical support too, if kitted out).
Hope this helps.
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March 24th, 2012, 01:26 PM
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Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
I wish I had one of those
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March 24th, 2012, 02:58 PM
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Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
Thanks LL. i really have a lot to learn. never heard of them. what a cool graphic, what a cool summons! how much to summon?
well, i guess i can check that myself.
i think i should consider conjuration as a path...i never do.
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March 24th, 2012, 03:39 PM
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Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
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Originally Posted by mattyburn7
I wish I had one of those
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Oh shush you. If you don't get one within the next half-dozen turns, I'll be shocked.
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