Awestruck. New Late Age game. (Game over, Atlantis wins)

[Soyweiser]

Originally Posted by Balaskar

Let it be known to all that Gath (Soyweiser) agreed to a NAP-3 with me and then attacked me without any forewarning.

Well well, three minor points. First you violated the terms of our non aggression pact first by using aggressive language, and clearly deploying an army not intend to take the single province, but just to attack me.

Second, I was under the impression the NAP3 only took effect after you took the agreed upon province. (Which invalidates my earlier point of course).

Third, you didn't seem to be using the provinces. Provinces with PD are free for anybody to grab.

Friends?

[Executor]

Originally Posted by Soyweiser

Well well, three minor points. First you violated the terms of our non aggression pact first by using aggressive language, and clearly deploying an army not intend to take the single province, but just to attack me.

Friends?

Oh come on, if you're gonna make this into a public debate you need to elaborate on these points. What does that exactly mean?

[Soyweiser]

He made elaborate descriptions of how he would stop any of my invasions, and how he would invade me in turn. And look and behold, the treacherous Agartha then started to actually invade me with an army exactly as described.

[Executor]

Amhazir, I've sent you an email also. Need an extension on the turn, 24 hours at least if possible.

[Amhazair]

Added.

[Balaskar]

Sure we are friends... just friends who want to kill each other.

1st. I did not use agressive language, but simply sent you a stern warning as YOU were the one massing armies on my borders. I had no armies close to your border except for the one that was waiting for you to remove your troops from the province you had promised me. My worries proved to be warranted as you attacked me 4 turns later.

2nd. This is simply a lie. When I sent you a stern warning about the armies close to my borders and also mentioned that you had failed to remove your troops from the province promised me you told me that you STILL considered (present tense) our NAP-3 to still be in effect.

3rd. Touché. I'm a newb and it was a good lesson. Can't blame Pythium for taking advantage... but it is still underhanded for someone who just a few turns before had confirmed a NAP-3 with me to turn around and stab me in the back.

Conclusion: 1.Untrustworthy 2.Untrustworthy 3.Untrustworthy. I will be wary of any future dealings with you.

PS MOST FUN I've had in a MP game in months, even though I am sure I am going to get my arse handed to me. Great example of how LOSING is FUN!

Originally Posted by Soyweiser

Well well, three minor points. First you violated the terms of our non aggression pact first by using aggressive language, and clearly deploying an army not intend to take the single province, but just to attack me.

Second, I was under the impression the NAP3 only took effect after you took the agreed upon province. (Which invalidates my earlier point of course).

Third, you didn't seem to be using the provinces. Provinces with PD are free for anybody to grab.

Friends?

[Balaskar]

When did I invade you?

Originally Posted by Soyweiser

He made elaborate descriptions of how he would stop any of my invasions, and how he would invade me in turn. And look and behold, the treacherous Agartha then started to actually invade me with an army exactly as described.

[Amhazair]

Originally Posted by Balaskar

PS MOST FUN I've had in a MP game in months, even though I am sure I am going to get my arse handed to me. Great example of how LOSING is FUN!

Heh, I do like your attitude I have to say.

Without going into the details of an agreement I know nothing about and am no party of, for the longest time NAP's were considered sacrosanct in these parts, and breaking one, even when it made absolute strategice sense, absolutely not done. While most people still take it quite seriously those feelings appear to be relaxing a little bit, which I don't actually find to be a bad thing, as that attitude might be conductive to careless play.

Still, as you said, there can be quite some fun to be had in trying to frustrate your opponent(s) as much as possible, either by causing damage or just by costing them time, and, who knows, all may not be lost. Do not neglect your diplomacy, if you can convince the neighbour of an enemy that you're able tie up his forces for a long time, watch him trip over his own feet in his haste to take advantage of the situation. Hope you didn't neglect your scouts and knows who borders who. (And if you don't, people might be willing to trade that information too. Not that I'm volunteering of course. )

[Executor]

Marginon AI???

[Calahan]

Originally Posted by Executor

Marginon AI???

You guys should have organised this game on the other forum, as there are rules against this sort of thing there now.