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				October 19th, 2012, 03:46 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by YellowCactus  Folket was also attacked by Atlantis in a random, yet bloody brawl.  His invasion plans were set back about 4 turns, and when he went in, I don't think he initially sent many Mages.  Not sure how the battles went. |  I had expected the attack by Sauromatia, as he cancelled our NAP. So I was prepared for that attack all the time and for fighting Sauromatia an earlier attack wouldn't have made much of a difference. However it would surely have given you more room and time to breath. 
The attack went a bit like yours, only much shorter. He reached my first castle and was blown away by Meteors. After that we did a bit of dance around Imictan with strong armies. There were one or two other larger battles but nothing decisive. Meanwhile I captured all your suthern provinces. He than started raiding with Enaries and I started raiding with a Treeant and Gargoyles. I was much more successful in that, and I think Sauromatia was just on the brink to get into real trouble.
			
			
			
			
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				October 19th, 2012, 03:54 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by datom  Hi all, 
Bit sad to see this one ended just as I have time to play again    
I'd agree with Olm's assessment that he hadn't won but was in the best position.  Myself, when time got short, I had to drop all diplo and shifted to a turtling strategy.  I was hoping that Helheim and Maverni would clash in Kailasa and then I could vulture up the remains.  Reading this thread, I think it's pretty clear a combined effort could have brought down Maverni (I myself was sure Neif/Sauro would bring them down to a manageable size so scuttled away to my summoning labs) and was more worried about Helheim and Atlantis.  Then I double-staled through personal circumstances, and the balance had shifted markedly.,,
 
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So you also played a false game with me. I guess I am just too trusting for this game. I had envisioned a clash of two blocks for the end, me, T'ien Ch'i and Kailasa and perhaps Yomi against Helheim and its allies. I would have tried to protect T'ien Ch'i against every threat. I gave Yomi free fire GEMs to fight Helheim. And all the while you all thought about the best way to bring me down. 
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				October 21st, 2012, 10:52 AM
			
			
			
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 I really need to think about my morale attitude towards this game.
 
 I think the "Diplomacy: Machiavellian" aspect is key here.
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				October 23rd, 2012, 06:02 PM
			
			
			
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 I see turns are still rolling out. Are we playing for laughs or is the game still going on? |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 23rd, 2012, 06:57 PM
			
			
			
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				October 24th, 2012, 03:00 PM
			
			
			
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 I got the impression the majority decided the game is over - I'm not sure though yet.
 Maybe - with a little hint on the intention of this game as a "win-and-turn-ai" kind of game - all players who belive they have won should just turn ai.
 The rest who still wishes to play on may do so.
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				October 24th, 2012, 03:55 PM
			
			
			
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 I still don't think I won, but I will turn AI nonetheless, as that should be funnier for those who continue.I would have played on, but not with several major powers (at least Helheim and Ulm) AI.
 
 So I wish you luck against my AI successor. He has enough power to put up some fight.
 
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				October 24th, 2012, 04:23 PM
			
			
			
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 I did part of another turn, some things I wanted to test. Will go AI next turn. |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 24th, 2012, 07:03 PM
			
			
			
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 Good game Olm, 
 I'm chalking this game up to a win for you!
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				October 25th, 2012, 12:27 PM
			
			
			
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 So we are continuing?  I thought we'd ended? Can we at least stop hosting until we get some idea whether we're playing or not? |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
	
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