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Re: obat46 Austria
If referring to Post #26, Don I believe on his next post took care of that. If your talking about AMX's Post #28, I had the following myself to include the HUSAR will post here everything I'm tracking for Austria...
PANDUR 1
http://www.janes.com/article/50032/a...-pandur-i-apcs
http://www.armyrecognition.com/march...n_station.html
/http://www.forecastinternational.com/news/index.cfm?l3=30109&recno=231096
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...eled-apcs.html
HUSAR:
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Sec.../4001443724482
This was all I had and I haven't seen anything else that would fall into this category or any of the other ones I use. Was thinking JUNE 2015 start for at least the PANDUR 1 to allow for enough units to be fielded with the new RWS.
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Re: obat46 Austria
Proposed changes and additions to Austrian OOB, including updated Iveco LMV "Husar", new Pandur version and mountain infantry.
Adapted OOB attached and detailed changelog in quotes:
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obat46 - Austria: (Adapted from default obat of WinSPMBT 10.0b)
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Unit 225 "Iveco LMV"
Name: CHANGED "Iveco LMV" to "Husar Iveco LMV"
SmokeDischargers: CHANGED "0" to "2"
Fire control: CHANGED "0" to "30"
Laser R/F: CHANGED "20" to "22"
Stabiliser: CHANGED "0" to "4"
Survivability: CHANGED "0" to "1"
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Unit 265 "Iveco LMV"
Name: CHANGED "Iveco LMV" to "Husar Iveco LMV"
Cost: CHANGED "23" to "35"
Vision: CHANGED "0" to "40"
SmokeDischargers: CHANGED "0" to "2"
Fire control: CHANGED "0" to "30"
Laser R/F: CHANGED "0" to "22"
Stabiliser: CHANGED "0" to "4"
Survivability: CHANGED "0" to "1"
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Unit 266 "Iveco LMV"
Name: CHANGED "Iveco LMV" to "Husar Iveco LMV"
Cost: CHANGED "23" to "35"
Vision: CHANGED "0" to "40"
SmokeDischargers: CHANGED "0" to "2"
Fire control: CHANGED "0" to "30"
Laser R/F: CHANGED "0" to "22"
Stabiliser: CHANGED "0" to "4"
Survivability: CHANGED "0" to "1"
(Official name in Austrian Army is now "Husar" and it has extra protection, SmokeDischargers, also WeaponStation has stabiliser, laser range finder, thermal imaging...)
(http://www.doppeladler.com/da/oebh/iveco-lmv/)
(http://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=8409)
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NEW: unit 390 "Pandur 6x6" copied from unit 037 "Pandur 6x6"
Available from "05 115" to "12 125"
Cost: CHANGED "34" to "50"
Vision: CHANGED "15" to "40"
Weapon 1: EXCHANGED 55 "12.7mm M2 AAMG" with 125 "12.7mm Rem MG"
Fire control: CHANGED "0" to "30"
Laser R/F: CHANGED "0" to "22"
Stabiliser: CHANGED "0" to "4"
(Some Pandur now have a Remote Weapons Station)
(http://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=7632)
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NEW: unit 302 "Tracker UAV" copied from unit 301 "Schiebel UAV"
Available from "01 115" to "12 125"
LBM: CHANGED from "32252" to "32251"
Icon: CHANGED from "3015" to "529"
Winter Icon: CHANGED from "3015" to "529"
Desert Icon: CHANGED from "3015" to "529"
(http://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=8454)
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NEW unit 400 "GbJg Scouts" copied from unit 348 "FJg Scouts"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "101" to "248"
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NEW unit 410 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 350 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "111"
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NEW unit 411 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 351 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "111"
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NEW unit 412 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 352 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "111"
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NEW unit 420 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 350 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "247"
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NEW unit 421 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 351 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "247"
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NEW unit 422 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 352 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "247"
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NEW formation 260 "GbJg Platoon" copied from formation 229 "FJg Platoon"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit 1: EXCHANGED 344 "FJg Section" with 420 "GbJg Section"
Unit 2: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 410 "GbJg Section"
Unit 3: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 410 "GbJg Section"
Unit 4: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 410 "GbJg Section"
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NEW unit 430 "GbJg Ski Scouts" copied from unit 348 "FJg Scouts"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "101" to "168"
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NEW unit 435 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 350 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "163"
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NEW unit 436 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 351 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "163"
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NEW unit 437 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 352 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "163"
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NEW unit 440 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 350 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "163"
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NEW unit 441 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 351 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "163"
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NEW unit 442 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 352 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "162"
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NEW formation 265 "GbJg Ski Plt" copied from formation 229 "FJg Platoon"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit 1: EXCHANGED 344 "FJg Section" with 435 "GbJg Section"
Unit 2: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 440 "GbJg Section"
Unit 3: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 440 "GbJg Section"
Unit 4: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 440 "GbJg Section"
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NEW unit 445 "Ski Sniper" copied from 112 "Sniper"
Unit Class: CHANGED "45" to "164"
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NEW unit 446 "Ski Sniper" copied from 113 "Sniper"
Unit Class: CHANGED "45" to "164"
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NEW unit 447 "Ski Sniper" copied from 114 "Sniper"
Unit Class: CHANGED "45" to "164"
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NEW unit 448 "Ski Sniper" copied from 115 "Sniper"
Unit Class: CHANGED "45" to "164"
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NEW unit 449 "Ski Sniper" copied from 116 "Sniper"
Unit Class: CHANGED "45" to "164"
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NEW formation 253 "Ski Sniper" copied from formation 041 "Sniper"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit 1: EXCHANGED 112 "Sniper" with 445 "Ski Sniper"
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(Several Austrian infantry bataillons are trained in mountain warfare, e.g. JgB 26)
(http://www.bundesheer.at/sk/lask/bri...on/jgb26.shtml)
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Re: obat46 Austria
I will look into this in October we we start game work again
Thanks
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August 7th, 2016, 10:09 AM
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Re: obat46 Austria
New Unit(s)
1.) Another "Turret Casemate" for you to add to the Austrian OBAT; a Charioteer turret inside a casemated bunker at Bunkermuseum Wurzenpass Austria.
2+3.) Two more "Tank Forts" to go with UNIT 181 Centurion Fort:
M47 and T-34/85 turrets installed on concrete pads at the Bunkermuseum Wurzenpass Austria.
Tank Turret Fortifications By Neil Short says:
56~ Charioteer Turrets were installed on concrete shelters or in casemates. Initially they were armed with the original 83.4mm gun, but some were later rearmed with the 105mm Panzerkanone M68.
T-34/85: 26~ tanks were acquired by the Army and served until the early 1960s, when they were withdrawn and given to the Sperrtruppe (Barricade Force) of the Austrian Army; and several were put in as fixed forts along the border with Austria. Apparently the preferred method of bunkerizing the T-34/85 was to simply bury the entire hull in the ground instead of simply mounting the turret on a concrete pedestal.
M-47: 147 x M47 turrets were installed as fixed fortifications. At least one (near Fort Nauders) had applique armor installed for more protection. All deactivated by 1998.
Centurion (Existing UNIT 181): The bulk of Austria's remaining centurion fleet was turret forted for about a decade -- 1990-2000~ before being removed from service.
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Re: obat46 Austria
Here's an operational M47 Turret picture for LBM use -- if you google "Feste Anlage", you get some good stuff.
And a "cleverly" disguised centurion (I think) turret inside a fake house. I Have no idea how you'd represent this; but... still cool.
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Re: obat46 Austria
According to the Austrian Army's page:
http://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=3655
This is a T-34/85 being pulled out of it's casemated bunker shelter for restoration. Thickness of the bunker wall(s) was 60 cm of concrete. |
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Re: obat46 Austria
Some more research has uncovered some more Austrian Bunkerized stuff:
75mm FAn M-24 with PzK L40 (from M-24 Chaffees)
24 x 15.5 cm FAn SFK M2 Long Tom (Pic Attached).
60 x 4 cm FAn FLAK 55-57 Bofors specifically along the Danube river in fixed positions to kill anything on the river. All removed 1998. (Pic of a 4 cm bunker from the inside).
24 x 10.5 cm FAn LFH 18/40 (see attached pic)
7.5cm rückstoßfreie Panzerabwehrkanone M20 -- apparently installed in special 100mm thick cupolas with an opening at the rear for use of the recoilless system.
7.62cm FAn PAK M42
Charioteer Panzerturme 105mm Upgrade: In addition to receiving the 105mm M68 gun, they also received 300 to 400mm of add-on armor.
7.62mm FAn MG-42: In enclosed armored dome.
12.7mm FAn Browning: In enclosed armored dome.
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Re: obat46 Austria
Proposed changes to Austrian OOB, Austria is changing it's artillery organization.
Adapted OOB attached and detailed changelog in quotes:
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obat46 - Austria: (Adapted from default obat of WinSPMBT 11.01)
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NEW: formation 057 "SPA Plt" copied from formation 020 "SPA Battery"
Available from "01 121" to "12 125"
Deleted Unit/Formation 6 (from 40 "M109" to 0)
Deleted Unit/Formation 5 (from 40 "M109" to 0)
NEW: formation 026 "SPA Battery" copied from formation 020 "SPA Battery"
Available from "01 121" to "12 125"
Added 40 "M109" as Unit/Formation 7
Added 40 "M109" as Unit/Formation 8
CHANGED: formation 020 "SPA Battery"
Available until "12 120"
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NEW: formation 055 "SPA Section" copied from formation 053 "SPA Section"
Available from "01 121" to "12 125"
Deleted Unit/Formation 3 (from 40 "M109" to 0)
CHANGED: formation 053 "SPA Section"
Available until "12 120"
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NEW: unit 157 "M109A5Oe Sec" copied from unit 155 "M109A5Oe Sec"
Available from 01 121" to "12 125"
Deleted Weapon 3 (from 122 "155mm M198 FH" to 0)
CHANGED: unit 155 "M109A5Oe Sec"
Available until "12 120"
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NEW: formation 059 "Howitzer Bty" copied from formation 047 "Howitzer Bty"
Available from 01 121" to "12 125"
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 3
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 4
CHANGED: formation 047 "Howitzer Bty"
Available until "12 120"
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NEW: formation 060 "Howitzer Bn" copied from formation 052 "Howitzer Bn"
Available from 01 121" to "12 125"
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 7
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 8
CHANGED: formation 052 "Howitzer Bn"
Available until "12 120"
(Austria is selling part of its SPA to Latvia)
(By 2021 latest there will be 2 Bataillons with 2 Batteries with 2 Platoons with 4 M109)
(http://www.doppeladler.com/da/oebh/l...nzerhaubitzen/)
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Re: obat46 Austria
OK thanks, I'll look into this when we start OOB work again
Don
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Re: obat46 Austria
More proposed changes, Austria is introducing (swedish) Haegglund snow vehicles for it's mountain troops by 2018.
The changelog and attached file include them and the changes proposed in January 2017.
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obat46 - Austria: (Adapted from default obat of WinSPMBT 11.01)
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NEW: formation 057 "SPA Plt" copied from formation 020 "SPA Battery"
Available from "01 121" to "12 125"
Deleted Unit/Formation 6 (from 40 "M109" to 0)
Deleted Unit/Formation 5 (from 40 "M109" to 0)
NEW: formation 026 "SPA Battery" copied from formation 020 "SPA Battery"
Available from "01 121" to "12 125"
Added 40 "M109" as Unit/Formation 7
Added 40 "M109" as Unit/Formation 8
CHANGED: formation 020 "SPA Battery"
Available until "12 120"
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NEW: formation 055 "SPA Section" copied from formation 053 "SPA Section"
Available from "01 121" to "12 125"
Deleted Unit/Formation 3 (from 40 "M109" to 0)
CHANGED: formation 053 "SPA Section"
Available until "12 120"
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NEW: unit 157 "M109A5Oe Sec" copied from unit 155 "M109A5Oe Sec"
Available from 01 121" to "12 125"
Deleted Weapon 3 (from 122 "155mm M198 FH" to 0)
CHANGED: unit 155 "M109A5Oe Sec"
Available until "12 120"
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NEW: formation 059 "Howitzer Bty" copied from formation 047 "Howitzer Bty"
Available from "01 121" to "12 125"
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 3
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 4
CHANGED: formation 047 "Howitzer Bty"
Available until "12 120"
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NEW: formation 060 "Howitzer Bn" copied from formation 052 "Howitzer Bn"
Available from 01 121" to "12 125"
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 7
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 8
CHANGED: formation 052 "Howitzer Bn"
Available until "12 120"
(Austria is selling part of its SPA to Latvia)
(By 2021 latest there will be 2 Bataillons with 2 Batteries with 2 Platoons with 4 M109)
(http://www.doppeladler.com/da/oebh/l...nzerhaubitzen/)
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NEW: unit 460 "Haegglund" copied from unit 440 "BvS10 MkIIB" (obat66 Sweden)
Available from "12 118" to "12 125"
Changed weapon 1 from 127 to 125 "12.7mm Rem MG"
Changed Radio from 90 to 92
Changed TI/GSR from 15 to 40
Changed FireControl from 0 to 3
Changed Laser R/F from 0 to 22
Changed Stabiliser from 0 to 4
Changed Cost from 97 to 107
NEW: unit 461 "Haegglund" copied from unit 460 "Haegglund"
Changed weapon 1 from 125 "12.7mm Rem MG" to 126 "7.62mm Rem MG"
Changed Cost from 107 to 105
NEW: unit 462 "Haegglund" copied from unit 460 "Haegglund"
Deleted weapon 1 (from 125 "12.7mm Rem MG" to 0)
Changed TI/GSR from 40 to 15
Changed FireControl from 3 to 0
Changed Laser R/F from 22 to 0
Changed Stabiliser from 4 to 0
Changed Cost from 107 to 97
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NEW: formation 280 "Haegglund Sec" copied from formation 111 "2 Wheeled APC"
Available from "12 118" to "12 125"
Changed Unit 1 to 460 "Haegglund"
Changed Unit 2 to 460 "Haegglund"
NEW: formation 281 "Haegglund Plt" copied from formation 280 "Haegglund Sec"
Available from "12 118" to "12 125"
Added Unit 3 to 460 "Haegglund"
Added Unit 4 to 460 "Haegglund"
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NEW: formation 273 "GbJg Plt Haeggl" copied from formation 260 "GbJg Platoon"
Available from "12 118" to "12 125"
Added Unit 5 to 460 "Haegglund"
Added Unit 6 to 460 "Haegglund"
Added Unit 7 to 460 "Haegglund"
Added Unit 8 to 460 "Haegglund"
(Austria is introducing Haegglund vehicles for it's mountain troops)
(https://www.truppendienst.com/themen...r-alle-faelle/)
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