Pakistan ORBAT

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Sorry for the incomplete information regarding T34/85. You must introduce Unit 3 of China OOB14, and then change the Ammo. The machineguns were US M1919. There were 25 used by 15th Lancers (Armoured Reconnaissance Regiment, 3x Sqns of 8 plus RHQ 1 tank). Photo below

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The M3 Lee is on the Lahore Army Museum. The markings are from 1st Armoured Division
There is other Photo below, there is a plate in front of the vehicle, but only a local can go and read it.
You can check at page 4 of:
http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Lee_Grant.pdf

It was no "Lancer", it was a local modification of M3 chassis.

In 1971 it was not in service, because I have seen Army reports of the fighting, and they talked that "the remaining old 17 Pounder towed guns" were at the West.

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The Indian version on page 21 is interesting as well

ALTHOUGH.......when you view http://www.warbirds.in/galleries/wr/...or/M3-Grant-02

the comment is "An M3 Lee tank on display at the entrance of the MEG Center at Ulsoor. Note the fake gun restoration to the Hull!"

and certainly, the turret gun is not an M6 37mm gun

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The Indians had standart M3 Lee & Grant left by the British. That gun barrel is fake, it was invented when the Tank went to the museum.

The Pakistan M3 has a 17 Pounder antitank gun. It my be a convertion from a M33 Prime Mover, itself a version of the M31 ARV. This had a fake gun. "These had the crane, 37mm turret, internal winch and machine guns removed and a compressor installed to operate the artillery brakes"


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Regarding Field Artillery:

The light weapons used by Artillery soldiers should be the Sten SMG until 12/1984, and G3 rifle from then to present.

6 Pounder AT Gun 57mm 8/1947-12/1971, it was deactivated after 1971 war.

17 Pounder AT Gun 76.2mm 8/1947-12/1971, not in Orbat, must be introduced, should be like Unit 255 of UK OOB7. Mentioned in “A History of the Pakistan Army: Wars and Insurrections”.

M8/M116 75mm Pack Howitzer Unit 90, never used, there are same examples in Pakistan captured from Indians 50th Airborne Brigade that received it in 9/1963.

3.7inch Pack Howitzer 94mm 8/1947-12/1971, not in Orbat, must be introduced, should be like Unit 90 of India OOB18.

25 Pounder Gun 88mm 8/1947-present, POF keeps building ammo for it for training and ceremony. Unit 92 should be like Unit 86 of India OOB18, because the present has bad fire control value, bad range finder value and bad icon.

85mm Field Gun Unit 96, never was any prove of its service in Pakistan. According to official news the Artillery Antitank Units were converted to Field Artillery in 1966 and existing 6 pounder guns went to the Infantry, being in service until 1971 war

M56 105mm 1968-present, bad image, it’s 34174

M101A1 105mm 1955-present, image 7181

T54-I (M30) 122mm 1965-present, dates corrected

5.5inch Gun 140mm 8/1947-12/2002, Unit 101 should be like Unit 94 of India OOB18

M114A1 155mm 1960-present, dates corrected, image 12154. M483A1 cluster ammo from 11/2004

M59 Long Tom 155mm 1954-12/2010, in game only as indirect artillery, should be introduced as field. M483A1 cluster ammo from 11/2004

T59-I (M46) 130mm 1968-present, in game only as indirect artillery, should be introduced as field

M198 155mm from 1984-present, in game only as indirect artillery, should be introduced as field. M483A1 cluster ammo from 11/2004

M115 203mm 1955-12/2010, in game only as indirect artillery, should be introduced as field

T60 (D74) 122mm 1971-present, in game only as indirect artillery, should be introduced as field

T85 (D30) 122mm 1/2002-present, not in Orbat, must be introduced, should be like Unit 93 of China OOB14.

M7 Priest 105mm 1955-12/2002, change date

Sexton Mk.II 88mm 8/1947-12/1984, not in Orbat, must be introduced, should be like Unit 104 of India OOB18.

M109A2 (M185 L/23) 155mm 1/1983-present, In Unit 216, it’s the A2 not A3. The AAMG is T54 12.7mm. M483A1 cluster ammo from 11/2004

M109A5 (M284 L/39) 155mm from 1/2008-present, not in Orbat, must be introduced, should be like Unit 94 of Greece OOB31. The AAMG is T54 12.7mm. M483A1 cluster ammo from 11/2004

M109A4B+ (M185 L/23) 155mm from 12/2017-present, not in Orbat, must be introduced, should be like Unit 158 of Canada OOB30. The AAMG is T54 12.7mm. M483A1 cluster ammo from 11/2004

M109L (FH70 L39) 155mm from 5/2017-present, not in Orbat, must be introduced, should be like Unit 76 of Italy OOB34. The AAMG is T54 12.7mm. M483A1 cluster ammo from 11/2004

M110A2 203mm 1/1984-present. Change data

KRL122 Gazab 122mm MRL 1/1992-present. not in Orbat, must be introduced in place of BM21 (unit 281) that was never used, should be like Unit 503 (BM-11) of North Korea OOB19. Image 32277

T83 Azar 122mm MRL 1982-present. not in Orbat, must be introduced, should be like Unit 531 of China OOB14.

A100E 300mm MRL 1/2011-present.

Helwan 122mm SBRL 1/1986-present. not in Orbat, must be introduced, should be like Unit 489 of Mujahideen OOB22. 9K132 Grad-P from Egypt.

T85 107mm SBRL 1/1986-present. Chinese, not in Orbat, must be introduced, should be like Unit 490 of Mujahideen OOB22.

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I have added this to the list

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Just saw a vídeo of an exercise this week with T56 85mm field gun and M115 203mm!
Change my data, I was not right

https://twitter.com/i/status/1088805548215144448

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D-44 85mm (Cninese Type-56)