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				 Creating African scenarios 
 I have been trying to create scenarios in Niger (one of my favorite countries) and Mali. Mainly internal security conflicts. But I'm having trouble putting forces together. 
 For example, I know how the army of Niger is structured, and I know they use the Panhard M3 APC (among others), but I don't see the Panhard represented in either the generic red or green orders of battle.
 
 Has anyone else tried to create scenarios dealing with African conflicts? If so, how do you do it?
 
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				 Re: Creating African scenarios 
 One thing you can do is find stuff in other OOBs and buy it as "Captured".  Works for making scenarios. 
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				 Re: Creating African scenarios 
 Thread moved to the correct forum.
 As Suhir said, you can use the allies function to buy things as captured.
 
 France, Kenya or Nigeria versus Mujadeen will generate batlocs appropriate to the various OPFOR warlords (Sahel, West Africa, South Sudan, Nothern Nigeria etc).
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				 Re: Creating African scenarios 
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				 Re: Creating African scenarios 
 I generally use Cuba there in the times of the border wars. That gives southern African and Namibian desert batlocs.
 The Cuba-SADF wars work as a campaign, out of the box - I usually try it one way or the other once a year or so. Usually 75+-85.
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					Originally Posted by retiredgysgt  I am curious what opponents to use against South Africa? During the wars there. |  Cuba and Angola.  Use Red with my African Insurgents if you're doing before Angolan Independence.
 
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				 Re: Creating African scenarios 
 I want to play the South Africans if I use red forces I get to many Tanks. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Creating African scenarios 
 We talked about "Gunships " being a "niche " item ~3 weeks back, well so are many of the countries in the game. 
 
I'll have some items for African countries I need to work on but, in general equipment issues or that part of the world isn't covered as thoroughly as say Europe, North America or Asia by most websites.
 
You've been given a couple of good options, however, as far staying on top of what's going on in Africa and their military's to be able to build "reliable " OOB's, beyond what we have in them already may I suggest the following: 
1) www.defenceweb.co.za  All Africa all the time. Very reliable overall. On the "NAV BAR " you can click on "News By Country " every African country is represented there. 
 
Also you can click on "Resources " then "AFRICAN MILITARIES " listing both equipment and quantities of each. Pretty much kept up-to-date.
 
2) I don't  "leave home" without it... 
https://www.sipri.org/databases/armstransfers http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade...e_register.php
 
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					Originally Posted by retiredgysgt  I want to play the South Africans if I use red forces I get to many Tanks. |  Then use a modified RED - as troopie suggested, you can use his (in the mods forum, I think?)
 
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				 Re: Creating African scenarios 
 I have always wished there were some scenarios featuring Cuban expeditionary forces in Africa during the various wars of liberation, or during the Ogaden War between Ethiopia and Somalia in the late 1970s. I have read a couple of very good books on the Ethiopian-Somalia conflict. 
 I also wish there were some scenarios on the various guerilla operations against Rhodesia and South Africa, from the point of view of the guerilla armies.
 
 Maybe I need to get to work creating some scenarios myself!
 
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