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				Speaking of the USMC, I just read that they are getting rid of the Scout Snipers. 
			
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				This is the latest and greatest. What we all have to remember is this is the  CORPS PLAN 2030 and  NOT our  Plan 2025/2026 Campaign.  
 
Suhiir, 
Pursuant to our PM, I forgot about this system  MADIS ... 
"Full Operational Capability (FOC) is  planned for 2025" 
 TRACK TRACK TRACK my friend!! 
https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/d...-system-madis/ 
			
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 What I've been doing is incorporating changes that  ARE being implemented before the 2025 end-date for WinSPMBT and more-or-less ignoring what's planned in 2026 and beyond.
 
I  STRONGLY suspect a good number of the currently planned changes will not be implemented when someone with more common sense then Berger is appointed as Commandant.  He's way too focused on a single scenario, the South China Sea, and ignoring every other situation the USMC  WILL confront in coming years.
 
I saw the stuff on the MADIS system but can't think of a way to implement (or in-game need) a dedicated anti-drone system.
 
One system I do expect to see (partially) implemented before the 2025 drop-dead date is:
 https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/IF11831.pdf 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		First the  ARV the Marines just received the  FIRST Prototype just  this past January per your ref. (Second Photo down on the right caption.).
 
How long for  ACV?  It might have  maybe have reached IOC and according to the ref I dropped last night, no  AMPHIBS until 2028 
Could be a real issue for us anyway date wise for the both of them.
 
Concerning the Scout Sniper issue the first is about "creating space" for them by cutting 3 weeks off the Recon Sniper course. Note the dates of these refs.
 https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/new...sniper-course/
The next in  representative of several on the web at this time. 
The scout sniper platoons were introduced in 1943 during World War II. "The  first steps away from dedicated scout sniper platoons began in  2020, but the Marine Corps  this week directed the full transition to happen immediately, Bruce said."
 https://www.stripes.com/branches/mar...s-9308951.html
"All three training locations for the grueling  3-month Scout Sniper course at Camp Pendleton, California; Camp Lejeune, North Carolina; and Marine Corps Base Quantico, Virginia,  will stop admitting new students starting in  fiscal 2024 (Oct 2023.) , according to the message."
 
"Precision rifle capability (Designated Marksman.) will remain within the infantry company, and the  Marine Corps will continue to maintain school-trained snipers within Marine Reconnaissance and Marine Special Operations units," said service spokesman Capt. Ryan Bruce."
 
"It's  not the first time the Corps has dropped the scout snipers.
 
The Marine Corps previously  canned the program after World War I, World War II and Vietnam, anticipating  that future warfare wouldn't require snipers."  
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...-platoons.html
Refs are saying this information was apparently " leaked" before the  CORPS could make their  official announcement. I guess  Capt. Bruce has been tasked to address the issue, must be a  PAO.
 
Back at it later today so Good Night!
 
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Someone is FAR to enamored with "push button" warfare. 
I really don't expect many of the recent changes to last when the current Commandant retires/is replaced.
 
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Looks like it's just re-tasking the "Scout/Sniper" to just "Scout". 
Many of the same skills are used by both scouts and snipers.  This is a major reason the Scout/Sniper platoons were implemented in the first place. 
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		A little something to look forward to in the 2023 update. 
 
Iwo Jima Again? 
 
Date: Febuary 16, 2023 
 
A surface-to-air missile from Fiery Cross reef (called Yougshu by the PRC) downed a US survellience aircraft.  The PRC claims it was an accidental firing during a training excercise.  No one believes them. 
 
The US is landing troops on the reef in order to "secure evidence" and "detain witnesses".  The US has requested a formal investigation by the UN and claims all PRC citizens will be returned to the mainland once the investigation has concluded. 
 
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