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 GT, in regards to the weddings of your prince and princes, I have not done that yet, however, I would think it would have some type of religious repercussions against the offending country both internally and externally, especially depending on what religion your country etc are, could cause riots, rebellion, excomunication, and who knows what all,  probably not a good idea unless you just want to see what would happen....but then again...      
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	Anyone? I was thinking of buying it at lunch, but I already own EUII. If I knew why it was better, then I could buy it without a second thought. As it stands, it sounds like more of the same...Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by sachmo: How does this game compare with Europa Universalis? They sound rather similar? Also, would anyone mind posting the minimum hardware specs including required HD space? I would look it up myself, but I'm a bit busy at work...
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 sachmo. its worth it to buy at least in my opinion, if youj've played Shogun and liked it you'll enjoy Medevil. You get to fight your battles tactically on the battlefield, mano to mano, army to army,  nothing like seeing 100 knights charging a square or seiging a castle with  seige engines.  You win if you win the battle, so its up to you on the battlefield. This is what makes it fun to play.
 In EU battles are fought by computer, in Medevil you fight your own on the actual battle field with actual amount of troops.
 
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 maybe play a demo if you can find one on the site
 
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	Anyone? I was thinking of buying it at lunch, but I already own EUII. If I knew why it was better, then I could buy it without a second thought. As it stands, it sounds like more of the same...Quote: 
	
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 How does this game compare with Europa Universalis? They sound rather similar? Also, would anyone mind posting the minimum hardware specs including required HD space? I would look it up myself, but I'm a bit busy at work...
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 The two games aren't really comparable.  The Total War series is really a 3-d, realtime, grand tactical battle game - with a strategic layer built on top, there just to generate more battles for you to fight.
 
 Now Medieval, the latest in the series, is a lot more interesting strategically then Shogun was.  It's got some fun new elements like having to keep your Royal Family alive and generating heirs, dealing with different religions (Crusades and Jihads etc).  But the diplomacy is incredibly crude, the economics ditto - and who cares?  The game's about fighting lots of battles, then finding ways to build better troops so you can fight more battles.  The huge variety of troop types and the different terrain types stop it from getting repetative (so this time I've got to fight my entire army across one bridge?  And he's got how many archers?)
 
 Do you like the idea of fighting medieval-era battles in 3-d and realtime?  If not, don't buy Medieval.
 
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 Thanks for the input guys. From the descriptions, and from one game story I was reading, it sounded a lot like EU, but now I know that it's mostly a RTS. Thanks! |  
	
		
	
	
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 Good old Tigga, always want to explore where no one would dare to go...     
It will give you the trait "Incest", which has a huge malus for your piety (and maybe some other areas, can't remember).
  
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		| Originally posted by Growltigga: One thing I am slightly concerned about, the rulebook says you should not marry your princesses to your princes, now obviously I can see the genetic drawbacks of this (not to mention the moral issues) but curiousity leads me to wonder what happens IF YOU DO try and marry one of your princesses to one of your princes? has any sick weirdo tried to do this yet?
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 Mephisto, thanks for that but I could point out (only if I was being difficult you realise) that you must have tried this option for you to know what happens if you do it!! 
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 Sex in wargames,  what next ???       Next they'll be putting in LH look a likes..... and I'll never stop playing the game..   
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 I have just had one of those beautiful moments that make playing wargames worthwhile.
 Kiev is one of my provinces and is garrisoned by 3 units of Trebizond archers, 1 unit of Byzantine infantry, 1 unit of naptha throwers, 1 unit of Kataphraktoi (under Prince Andronicus, the adulterer and coward) and 1 unit of Alan cavalry.
 
 The sneaky wretch of the King of Hungary (who is a right aggressive toe rag I can tell you) invades with a very large force indeed (about 850 men).
 
 The battlefield is a river with 2 bridges, my infantry blocks one, the cavalry rides over the other.  Mr Hungary sends his cavalry over the bridge to be slaughtered by my archers and under the swords of my infantry.  The cavalry blocks each other and it is such a pleasant sight to watch the rain of arrows decimating him (I play with unlimited ammo).  Having lost the bulk of his cavalry, Il Duce of Hungary sends in his infantry who frankly gets slaughtered by the arrow storm before it even reaches my troops.. in disarray, he cant do much as my katapraktoi hit him from behind and roll up what is left of his forces, he flees and the alans just run him down..
 
 total loss to me 14 men.  Total loss to him 798.
 
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 Hmmm...the "official" MTW board is still down. Rumor on an old board is that it was hacked.
 If they can get a few bugs out and get the AI to play a better strategic game this one is going to be an all-time classic.The blend of a turn-based strategic level and the variable-speed continuous time tactical level is a delight. Has anyone found any historical battles for the game posted around the net?
 
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