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	I love you to thinktank, but in a butch and entirely platonic way. Ok, on the forging. Now that you mention it I have a vague recollection of the thread you refer to as well.Quote: 
	
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	Johann, I love you and want to have your babies, but this is incorrect. I have posted before detailing how you can forge for free. (Unfortunately, the current forum searching function has caused me to give up after about 15 minutes of careful rephrasing.)Quote: 
	
		| It is not 100 -50 -50 but 100*0.5*05. And it never ever drops below 1 gem in all paths involved. 
 |  You can forge items for 0 gems under certain circumstances, and you dont even need a Smith for it. (Steel Ovens or similar, FotA, Hammer will do.)
 
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 hm would you please share how this works tinktank ?
because if that is true it should be fixed in the next patch because i think this result is not how forge boni were intended to work or johan ?
i have looked through sites.xls from sunraybe now .
it may be incorrect but there the maximum construction bonus listed you can get from sites is 20% .
so the maximum you should be able to get is 25% forge bonus from a ulm mastersmith , 50% from hammer of the forge lord and 20% from a construction site which adds to 95% .
so now even if all is added and forge of the ancients is up a 80 gem item should cost then :
80x0,5 for forge = 40 
40 x 0,05 = 2 
so the cheapest prize under really rare circumstances should be 2 gems for a robe of invulnerabilty / soul contract etc.
pickles statement underlines this too he got items worth 80 gems for 10 gems with 75% forge bonus + forge of the ancients up .
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could it be possible tinktank that you discovered that in a dominionVersion pre 2.12 and johan and kristoffer already fixed it for 2.12 ?