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Old October 13th, 2004, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: Most powerful spells?

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Boron said:
Does "undead or lifeless are not affected" in spelldescription mean that i can't spam raise skeletons and they get reanimated as manikins too ?
Correct.

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If the manikins created through haunted forest effect survive the battle do you keep them then or do they dissolve after battle ?
The later.

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Furthermore spelldescription states that it works only in own dominion .
So i wonder how useful this spell is all in all ?
Obviously it's best used when you're on the defensive.

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Swarm costs 1 nature gem but is 100 fatigue so the spell scripting ai should use more then 1 nature gem / swarm .
Not a real concern with nature-1 mages.

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So you have the effect only in own dominion + either invest a lot of nature gems for swarm or have something like militia getting killed that you benefit from the spell ?
Exactly. Haunted Forest is pretty nasty with vanilla Pangaea if you have max turmoil, a fairly high dominion and enough Panii to supply an endless stream of maenads.

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Is this really worth it when you can with zero gemcosts either spam false horrors or skeleton hordes ?
I didn't know that Pangaea could spam False Horrors so easily.

Anyway you didn't pay much attention to what I wrote: read that again, funniest devastating combo - devastating it surely is, and I can't easily imagine anything more funny in Dominions than watching at the chain reactions Haunted Forest may trigger - an unit dies, a manikin rises and kills an enemy nearby, a new manikin rises and kills another enemy unit nearby, a new manikin rises, etc. - all that in the same round! Spamming False Horrors gets rapidly boring in comparison.

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And there is always the dispel problem.
Fact is, in that game my Haunted Forest Lasted only 1 turn . But spending 60 gems on it, plus 27 more on Swarms, to destroy 400 enemy units that were worth much more was quite a bargain. And I had no real choice anyway: in that game the Pangaean player I subbed for decided to quit because he found himself in a desperate situation, with his god killed, 7 depleted provinces left, the troops I listed plus an Apostate, a High Priest and a few scouts - nothing more! - and that big Arco army marching towards the capital, and only 2 provinces away from it.

I don't know what you would have done without troops in that situation, but I noticed that the Apostate had the items he needed to cast Haunted Forest - so I decided to alchemize every gem I had to nature and ended with 87 - enough for an unbuffed Haunted Forest and 3 Swarms/Dryad. So the Apostate performed the ritual , while the LQ and Dryads marched againts the invaders. And you know what happened . It sure didn't make me win that war, but at least it delayed Pangaea's extinction by several years!
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