Balancing Wrathful Skies

[Yvelina]

> > > It should not be nerfed into oblivion like the VQ .

> > The VQ was hardly nerfed into oblivion. It was nerfed such that it was not the most optimal pretender.

Actually, I have not seen a VQ in play since the nerf, so I'd say 'oblivion' is indeed accurate. Personally I think that the VQ downgrade went WAY too far. I was never too afraid of undead pretenders, because there are a number of spells that take care of them real well. I was a newbie, and I cannot say I could have handled the VQ in her prime, but I have since killed a number of GKs in middle/late games, and frankly I do not see how the VQ pretender deserves the ridiculously high cost and the expensive paths.

By the way, I have not seen Black Forest Ulm much lately, either. The VQ was a way to make them half-way viable.

Right now, the only nations that can take a VQ without dooming themselves are Jotunheim, Caelum and Abysia (guess why!) and each of them can do a lot better

> > The GK filled that role and hence he should be next on the chopping block.

> Yeah but that's the problem.

Hear, hear!

> I agree that the VQ was too good but now after the VQ is nerfed if the GK gets also nerfed then if this is continued we end up by having all pretenders having equal stats .

Yes, and in any case, the good players, defined as those left standing after the smoke clears, are the first to move to the new Uberalla. I am in a game with Zen's mod, and I look at my boyfriend's turns in another. Funny how popular the Virtue has become, all of a sudden... or how well the Asinja leads Vanheim.